Cheetah, the CONFIGURBANIST

"Cheetah, the CONFIGURBANIST" is a plugin for analyzing and designing urban configurations. A new version is released here https://sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/configurbanist

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  • Samane

    Hi Nitya,

    We will release the GHA version very soon. At the moment, you can download the GH sample file and save the Cheetah components as user object components. 

    Cheers,

    Sama

  • Samane

    Petar,

    About the polycentric distribution component: if there is something to distribute like built space area or anything like that which requires a bounded distribution over network locations, according to some sort of network measures(with Cheetah you have pedestrian accessibility measures available), you may use this component. With this component you can control the spread and shape of a distribution by changing the "p" value and the number of steps. 

    Cheers,

    Sama

  • Nitya Balan

    Hi Sama!

    Thanks for the reply. How can i save the Cheetah components as user object components? Can you please explain? I am not really a pro at this platform. Moreover, i am attaching screenshots of errors i am experiencing while using the gh file. I think first one is because i am using an old version of grasshopper, i am not really sure about second. Please confirm.

    Cheers!

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  • Petar Pejic

    Samane, Thank you for your kind reply. Your explanation and the video you provided made a lot of sense, and it much clearer now. I would only like to ask you what p value stands for in polycentric distribution? I get the effect it has on the calculation, but how would you explain it in terms of real life usage? 

    I am also TU Delft student, currently doing MSc 3, and I plan to use your definition of walk-ability and your script (slightly changed and adapted), giving credit to you. If that is ok with you and Pirous

  • Petar Pejic

    Also, terrain calculation is not working, even after I have checked all suggestions. I am attaching a file so if anyone wants to give it a try.

    Rhino and GH file

  • Petar Pejic

    Strange thing is that your provided example is working, while my is not. I have tried redrawing street network, extending even more terrain, nothing seems to work

  • Samane

    Hi  Nitya,

    Your grasshopper is very old. Cheetah is not compatible with 0.90014 version.

    for saving components as user object components, while one is selected go to File> Create User Object and save it.

    Sama

  • Samane

    Hi Petar,

    Good to hear that the video and explanations were of help. Of course it is alright with Pirouz and me to use Cheetah for your project with proper attribution.

    I tried to download your file but the access was denied. Can you attach it again?

    Sama

  • Petar Pejic

    sure.. Desktop.rar

    it is a .rar file, I hope this site allows using it...

    Maybe to give a heads up, I found that the problem is with the street network, since I have taken your example, applied my terrain and it worked well. Any help would be appreciated 

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  • Nitya Balan

    Samane! thank you so much for guiding me. I'll upgrade my version and come back to you with further queries.

    Thanks for being so helpful!

    Cheers!

  • Samane

    Dear Petar,
    It is very important to provide Cheetah's inputs with proper inputs.There were some mistakes in your file:
     
    1- In your street network, there was one street with length equal to 0. 
     
    2_ 10 blocks (block curves) were not closed; they were tiny lines and not closed polygons
     
    3- The number of weights should be equal to attraction points' count, you had 3 attraction points but 30 weights!
     
    4-The final result of network analysis is a data-tree of distances, containing lists of distances corresponding to the attraction points as bases of calculations. I did not understand why you provided the tree branch input with weights! That was the mistake.
     
    I edited your file and everything is working properly. If you give me your email address I can send it to you. 
     
    Cheers
  • Petar Pejic

    Dear Samane,

    I was in a hurry this morning, therefore, I found a way around - I've redrawn all of the streets, and it worked. It doesn't seem to have any troubles with the other issues you've mentioned. 

    thank you for your effort and your time, you it is highly appreciated

  • Samane

    Dear Petra,

    Good to hear that. But in order to make sure you are getting correct outputs, I would suggest to check items numbers 3 and 4 as well.

    Good Luck

  • Maciej Pitek

    Hi there!
    I'm undergraduate student of Architecture and I'm almost totally new to grasshopper and i realy don't know how to set on cheetah plugin to work, out from this algorythm written in "Cheetah_Pilot_New_Series_Urban_Data_Scope_F.gh" file
    and I cannot find any other plugin saved in such way to base on its installation process (all saved as .gha files)
    Am I going to create user objects out of all grouped elements and set their properties?
    or is there any simpler way to get it work?
    I'd be very Greatful for any help!
    :)

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Maciej, Cheetah is at the moment a set of user components containing VB.NET codes, provided "as is". We are writing a gha for it but it takes a few days to be released here. We are improving a few features in the gha version, so if you can wait you will get a faster Cheetah in a few days. In any case, if you happen to have any difficulty in doing some analyses with those components, please let us know here. 

  • Maciej Pitek

    Ok. Thank You for answer!
    So I'm looking forward to see this version!
    Good luck! :)

  • Pirouz Nourian

    We are doing final tests on a GHA version of Cheetah, the CONFIGURBANIST. It is coming soon!

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi everyone, we just released a GHA version on our webpage. Please use this one instead of the old clusters. 

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi, have you installed the new GHA version? Is it working? Please let us know if you happen to notice any problem. 

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  • Atis Sedlenieks

    ok, everything is great and so, but.. it would be great to see some designing use examples of this plugin, as for now i see it as great analysis tool..

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Atis, Thanks for your comment. If you mean a physical modifications by design; I should say such methods are not included in this toolkit. In any case, according to a definition, a planned change in an existing situation towards a better one could be considered as design. You may use the results you get from these component to do changes or organizations on urban settlements.For instance, the distribution component could be used to define the density of plots around important locations.  If you can think of other generic method that you would like to have for designing, please let us know.

  • Michalis Takopoulos

    Hello to everyone. I have just tested the plug-in and I think that is a very useful tool.

    The only thing that I want to mention is about the "walker" component. When i don't use any topography and I work in a plan lanscape, I have to make a plane mesh as reference in order to connect it with the input of the  topography of the  component. Eitherwise it is not going to work. Another solution it would be the component to recognise that it does not need any topography info when everythng is in the same level (plan landscape). Continue the good work!

  • Samane

    Dear Michalis,

    Thanks for your support and letting us know! We have forgotten to make this input as an optional one. We will fix it as soon as possible.

    Happy new year!

  • Anthony P. Ar

    Excellent plugin. I´m working with it and it is very interesting and usesfull, but I have one problem. I can´t bake the results of the analyse.For example, when I bake Networkdistancecalculator i can´t bake de colours of the lines, or when i want to bake plot measures i can´t have de colours of the plots only the boundry of it.

    I don´t know how to become the grasshopper analys to vectorial objects in rhino.

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Anthony, Thanks for your comment. Indeed, it would be interesting to be able to bake colored lines. However, the lines are just previewed by those colors in the methods we are using. In any case, given that you have the output colors, you may bake the lines using these tools by Giulio Piacentino:

    http://www.giuliopiacentino.com/grasshopper-tools/

    Keep in touch!

    Best regards,

    Pirouz

  • Anthony P. Ar

    Thanks for you quick answer Pirouz. But I am more interested in bake the plot measures (the colours) and i can´t. There is no way to become the grasshopper analyse into vectors in rhino?

  • Michalis Takopoulos

    Hello, fellas. I would like to make one more question. I try the between-ness component and I get these two errors attached. Could you please help me out a bit? What have I done wrong? I guess there is something wrong with the drawn geometry in Rhino, but I dont really know what...  error%20betw.png

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Michalis, The first error message is the one we have put there to inform users about lines which are disconnected from other lines. You need to make sure all lines in your network are connected to at least one other line. For future versions, if our schedule allows we hope to add an index output to let you know which lines exactly are disconnected. For the time being, you need to inspect your network manually. Please let us know if the error persists. 

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Anthony, please find the attached model. That's what you can do with the model at this moment to bake the results. I will think about an integrated solution for the next release. I hope this helps. Baking_Cheetah_results.gh

  • Anthony P. Ar

    Thank you very much Pirouz it has been very useful for me. Now i can use the analysis in presentations and show it smart.

    Good job and thanks.

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Thanks for your kind words Anthony. I am happy that you have found the tools useful! 

  • mahmoud fathi

     i downloaded CONFIGURBANIST" plugin and set up it  yet it seam to be dosent work ???

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Mahmoud, did you drag and drop the green GHA file into your GH canvas? After the installation finishes, you get a GHA file that is the plugin in a location that you specify during installation. You need to put a copy of this GHA file in your grasshopper/specifal folders/components folder

    The problem is that you have not done this, most probably. 

    I hope this helps.

    Pirouz

  • mahmoud fathi

    Pirouz Nourian  HI  .when h download CONFIGURBANIST"  i did not find green GHA file i have just found this icon  on my desktop after instlation  compleeted  yet  no change happend in grass hopper ..  so could you  upload the green gh file please !

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  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Mahmoud, I suggest you do the installation once again and choose a location on your computer where you want the GHA file to be placed. 

     

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Zuzanna,

    Sorry for my late response; had lost track of the posts here unfortunately. good that it is solved. I will try to generate an automatic warning message for such matters in the next release. 

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi, I released these tools yesterday. Thought you might find them useful in urban analysis. 

    https://sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/otb_3dgis

    For the time being, till the end of August, I will not be able to support in using these tools. I am applying for a research fund to be able to dedicate more time to the development of CONFIGURBANIST methodology. If you have enjoyed the plugin, please consider spreading the word and inviting members. A better visibility will certainly improve our chances and eventually help us improving this work. 

  • Pirouz Nourian

    FYI:

    Free CAD City Maps in DXF format, made out of OpenStreetMaps: 

    http://bdon.org/2014/08/03/osm-cad-experiment/

  • Azad Hadji K

    Hi Pirouz,

    I wish you coped well with your deadline.

    I tried to follow your CONFIGURBANIST V 0 0 2 video clip but it is way too fast to follow up. I am going to replicate your way for a student research about space syntax analyses. Do you have any slower version of it or any written script? That would be great help. Thank you

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Azad, thanks, it went relatively well. The only manual I have available now is the attached, I hope it helps, I don't know how the video can be slowed down though. I hope this helps. Cheetah_Manual.pdf

    For Space Syntax related investigations, perhaps it's better to continue the discussion here: http://www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax

  • J[D]

    Hi Pirouz!

    I was testing the last version of this plug-in and I had a problem:

    the output of the "Catchment Analysis component" is always empty...Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?

    Thanks,

    Giulio

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Hi Giulio, one common problem is unconnected network segments. If all inputs are valid and matching for catchment component it should work. In any case, if possible please let me have a look at your file. 

    Best,

    Pirouz

  • Pirouz Nourian

    forgot to mention my email address: p.nourian@tudelft.nl

  • Pirouz Nourian

    Thanks to Guilio, I found a problem with the catchment component. Have solved the problem and made a replacement for the time being. Please drag and drop this to your Grasshopper and let it replace the old component with this one (in the pop up window say yes replace all). Catchment_Cheetah.gha

  • Pirouz Nourian

    problem was it would not put out the polygons and IDs of reached plots.