I am new to paneling tools and I am looking for a way to rebuild a complex surface into planar pieces. I am currently having two issues
1. When I import the surface and use "surface domain number" it divides each surface separately is there a way to have it divide the object as a whole rather than separate surfaces?
2. Is there another way to rebuild this as planar surfaces where the gap between surfaces is not as extreme? I have been using "generate flat" faces, and it technically does what I want, but I would like to find a way to minimize the gap without sacrificing to much of the geometry.
I have attached the two files I have been working with, anything helps!
Hello freind....ithink that this is what do look for.TestPanelSurface%20unroling.3dm......also each edge on the 3d complex surface is labled on the 2d pieces
I have the same problem, when i try to execute it, it just open Rhino 4.0, although i have installed 5.0. What can i do? The installer is a .rhi file.. and i can't execute it
We are working on fixing the installer bugs, and we need your help. nIf you have any problem installing, please email the following to Brian (brian@mcneel.com):
- Your operation system
- Version of Rhino,
- Description of error or error message,-
- The PanelingTools log (if plugin is installed, but not loaded). The log is located in: %APPDATA%\mcneel\rhinoceros\5.0\logs
hey Rajaa Issa... i have downloaded the rhino 5 evaluation version. i am not getting the panelling tool bar in rhino 5 as i have no idea what should i do with" .rhi" formate file... so i just drag it but it gives the error.... help
i am using the panelling tool on grasshopper but it seems something is going wrong in this... whenever i drag the PLANAR GRID or another grid it does n`t become visible in rhino...
hey thanks i had a problem in my computer(because i have formatted it) some thing was missing so i figure it out by installing it in my laptop and yes! it works perfectly well...
Hi, I'm relatively new to PT. I am applying PT to a curtain-wall that has a slanted edge, but I want perfect rectangular panels except the edge ones will be trimmed. So I had to apply first to a cw that has a straight edge to get the rectangular partition, and trim off the edge panels manually. Can PT automatically generate rectangular partition (instead of trapezoidal) on non-rectangular surfaces? Please see the attached image.
It can depend on your surface, but in general you should be able to do that. Feel free to post the file in a discussion or email directly to me and I can walk you though the process.
I have attached the rhino file of a tower I'm designing and the GH file. In the rhino file, you will see I have two CW panels: a 2D one with simple lines, and a 3D one with meshes. I'm just using the 2D one for now to save computing power. My issues are:
1. How to subdivide a non-rectilinear surface (curved or not) with equal spacing into rectilinear subdivisions, like what happens on most buildings? (What I'm doing now is to use a rectilinear surface (on the Default layer), subdivide it, then manually trim the CW panels.)
2. Instead of just specifying the number of divisions in the U and V directions, can I also specify the distance b/w each sub-division?
Sorry I just realized my rhino file is too large to be attached here. If you want to see it, I can use drop-box or something. But the idea is the same regardless which rhino file we use.
I am getting this weird error with 2 missing components! I have tried to download the latest version and re-installing but it still comes up as i open my old definition. Any fix for this? See Image.
Can you please check and post the GH version and PT version?
To check the PT version, drag the ptVersion component (under PanelingTools->Param menu). It should be 2013.5.8.0. Also make sure you have 0.9.0061 GH version (GH->Help->About).
Thanks for the quick response. Well - I noticed that ptVersion component is also missing. I think I know why this happened - I had copied an old 'gha' file into my new system and hence everything got jumbled up.
Now I deleted all the existing PT data in AppData folders and it works perfectly fine after the new installation.
Thank you very much for the help.
Just wondering - is there an easy way of UNINTALLING PT, as opposed to finding the plug in files and deleting them? It might be a good idea to include an uninstaller with the setup as the plugin doesnt appear in the Conrol Panel programs. (This was my observaion -it may be specific to my PC though).
is there any way to fit the pattern to the surface edges ...the surface i am trying to pannel is irregular so i used trim grid component , but the results are not satisfying , thanks for your help
Does PT GH support hexagon grids. I'm attempting to form a hex grid on a sphere but am having issues with the seam of the sphere and was hoping PT would help but can't seem to find any signs of hexagon grids as of yet. Thanks for any help
Hello Rajaa, I am having an issue with assigning a number of panels to the Planar grid component ( morph 2D list ). There is a loss in geometry. Is it be-cos of the complexity of the pattern ?
Cfeldman, I posted a Grasshopper screen capture to a similar question a couple of months ago. You can create a paneling grid from a mesh in Grasshopper. Deconstruct the mesh, then use PT - compose grid number from the mesh vertices (specify a number of rows that match your mesh).
The problem with mesh base is that it may not follow rectangular topology. It is a similar problem to turning meshes to nurbs. Sometimes you can extract construction curves (Use contour), then use those curves to generate paneling grids and apply panels. This technique might not work for all shapes, but it will get you closer. I hope this helps.
Hi Lorenzo, there is no way to do that at the moment. The algorithm favors the closest attraction point and use the full magnitude to attract to the closest point. I will consider this for future development though.
Thank you Rajaa, yes i think it would be helpful in the future!
Meanwhile it is still possible to distort an already distorted grid, if the assigned magnitude is fixed, luckily the component is not heavy, so even if i run 3 or 4 components consequently it is still fast!
Ali Bousta
ok Ms Rajaa Issa
Mar 4, 2013
Chad Greenlee
Hey everyone,
I am new to paneling tools and I am looking for a way to rebuild a complex surface into planar pieces. I am currently having two issues
1. When I import the surface and use "surface domain number" it divides each surface separately is there a way to have it divide the object as a whole rather than separate surfaces?
2. Is there another way to rebuild this as planar surfaces where the gap between surfaces is not as extreme? I have been using "generate flat" faces, and it technically does what I want, but I would like to find a way to minimize the gap without sacrificing to much of the geometry.
I have attached the two files I have been working with, anything helps!
Test%20Panel%20Surface.3dm
Paneling%201.gh
Mar 21, 2013
Ali Bousta
Hello freind....ithink that this is what do look for.TestPanelSurface%20unroling.3dm......also each edge on the 3d complex surface is labled on the 2d pieces
Mar 29, 2013
Ali Bousta
i uplod the developed surfaces on the 3dm file
Mar 29, 2013
wang wei
Apr 30, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi wang, were you trying to open a file in Grasshopper?
Can you email me the details (rajaa@mcneel.com).
Apr 30, 2013
RubenV
I have the same problem, when i try to execute it, it just open Rhino 4.0, although i have installed 5.0. What can i do? The installer is a .rhi file.. and i can't execute it
Apr 30, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi Ruben,
We are working on fixing the installer bugs, and we need your help. nIf you have any problem installing, please email the following to Brian (brian@mcneel.com):
- Your operation system
- Version of Rhino,
- Description of error or error message,-
- The PanelingTools log (if plugin is installed, but not loaded). The log is located in: %APPDATA%\mcneel\rhinoceros\5.0\logs
Thanks.
Apr 30, 2013
筑梦NARUTO
Very good plug-in
Jun 4, 2013
Muhammad Rehan
hey Rajaa Issa... i have downloaded the rhino 5 evaluation version. i am not getting the panelling tool bar in rhino 5 as i have no idea what should i do with" .rhi" formate file... so i just drag it but it gives the error.... help
Jul 8, 2013
Muhammad Rehan
i am using the panelling tool on grasshopper but it seems something is going wrong in this... whenever i drag the PLANAR GRID or another grid it does n`t become visible in rhino...
Jul 8, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi Muhammad,
The rhi file is a Rhino 5 installer. You need to double click on the file and install PT.
Jul 8, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Muhammad,
Please make sure you have the latest GH version and verify that from the GH/Help/About.
Also, I can see from your message that you do not have the latest PT. Please install the latest and let us know if you still have trouble.
Jul 8, 2013
Muhammad Rehan
hey thanks i had a problem in my computer(because i have formatted it) some thing was missing so i figure it out by installing it in my laptop and yes! it works perfectly well...
thanks for your consideration
Jul 9, 2013
Darren Chang
Hi, I'm relatively new to PT. I am applying PT to a curtain-wall that has a slanted edge, but I want perfect rectangular panels except the edge ones will be trimmed. So I had to apply first to a cw that has a straight edge to get the rectangular partition, and trim off the edge panels manually. Can PT automatically generate rectangular partition (instead of trapezoidal) on non-rectangular surfaces? Please see the attached image.
Thanks in advance
Sep 19, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi Darren,
It can depend on your surface, but in general you should be able to do that. Feel free to post the file in a discussion or email directly to me and I can walk you though the process.
Sep 20, 2013
Darren Chang
Hi Rajaa,
I have attached the rhino file of a tower I'm designing and the GH file. In the rhino file, you will see I have two CW panels: a 2D one with simple lines, and a 3D one with meshes. I'm just using the 2D one for now to save computing power. My issues are:
1. How to subdivide a non-rectilinear surface (curved or not) with equal spacing into rectilinear subdivisions, like what happens on most buildings? (What I'm doing now is to use a rectilinear surface (on the Default layer), subdivide it, then manually trim the CW panels.)
130918_tower%20paneling%20test.gh
2. Instead of just specifying the number of divisions in the U and V directions, can I also specify the distance b/w each sub-division?
Sorry I just realized my rhino file is too large to be attached here. If you want to see it, I can use drop-box or something. But the idea is the same regardless which rhino file we use.
Thank you!
Darren
Sep 20, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi Darren,
Please send me the Rhino file using:http://www.rhino3d.com/upload
Upload to rajaa@mcneel.com
Sep 20, 2013
Darren Chang
Rajaa, done uploading :)
Sep 20, 2013
Sushant Verma
Hi,
I am getting this weird error with 2 missing components! I have tried to download the latest version and re-installing but it still comes up as i open my old definition. Any fix for this? See Image.
Many Thanks
Nov 1, 2013
Rajaa Issa
Hi Sushant,
Can you please check and post the GH version and PT version?
To check the PT version, drag the ptVersion component (under PanelingTools->Param menu). It should be 2013.5.8.0. Also make sure you have 0.9.0061 GH version (GH->Help->About).
Let me know how it goes.
Nov 1, 2013
Sushant Verma
Hi Rajaa,
Thanks for the quick response. Well - I noticed that ptVersion component is also missing. I think I know why this happened - I had copied an old 'gha' file into my new system and hence everything got jumbled up.
Now I deleted all the existing PT data in AppData folders and it works perfectly fine after the new installation.
Thank you very much for the help.
Just wondering - is there an easy way of UNINTALLING PT, as opposed to finding the plug in files and deleting them? It might be a good idea to include an uninstaller with the setup as the plugin doesnt appear in the Conrol Panel programs. (This was my observaion -it may be specific to my PC though).
Nov 1, 2013
Kaz
Hello Raja
is there any way to fit the pattern to the surface edges ...the surface i am trying to pannel is irregular so i used trim grid component , but the results are not satisfying , thanks for your help
regards
pa1.gh
PA1.3dm
Feb 12, 2014
Rajaa Issa
Hi Mark,
There is no trimming support yet in the PT-GH, but there is one for the PT-Rhino. I will add to the list the ability to support trimming in PT-GH.
In the attached, I baked the component and the grid, then used ptPanelGridCustom with base surface, and PullCurves=Yes. I hope that helps for now.
pa1_RI.gh
PA1_RI.zip
Feb 12, 2014
Kaz
that was helpful , thank you Rajaa !
Feb 13, 2014
Iain Blampied
Hi Rajaa,
Does PT GH support hexagon grids. I'm attempting to form a hex grid on a sphere but am having issues with the seam of the sphere and was hoping PT would help but can't seem to find any signs of hexagon grids as of yet. Thanks for any help
Mar 23, 2014
Rajaa Issa
http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topics/question-apply-custom-pat...
If you need further help, please post a sample.
Mar 23, 2014
khaleefa Al hemli
I really need to know how to make asp help any one one
Apr 15, 2014
Nuru Karim
Hello Rajaa,
I am having an issue with assigning a number of panels to the Planar grid component ( morph 2D list ). There is a loss in geometry. Is it be-cos of the complexity of the pattern ?
May 28, 2014
Rajaa Issa
Hi Kuru, Can you please share the model?
May 28, 2014
Rajaa Issa
Hi Khaleefa, the following image shows how you can achieve your pattern...
diagonalGrid.png
May 28, 2014
Montx
Hi,
Im coming across a problem, Im making a brick facade and i want to extrude a set of planes(bricks) according to distance from a surface.
iv made a grasshopper def that is theoretically correct but it isn't executing...
btw if i graft the d on srf cp it selects a whole new area
please help asap! i have a submission and im freaking out!!
Tags: architecture, brick extrusion, extrusion, help, srf cp
here is the gh file
here are the pics from rhino
this is the surface i used in srf cp
these are the planes i want to b extruded according to distance from surface
these are all the extruded rectangles i get!!
Ps- the problem is not with the surface being too low, it is not. and i have tried it with different surface with more hieght too.
Aug 5, 2014
Rajaa Issa
Hi Montx. Please email me the GH file and the Rhino file. Images do not help me experiment with a solution to your problem.
Aug 8, 2014
Nuru Karim
Hello Rajaa, is it possible to panel mesh surfaces in grasshopper panelling tools ? many thanks
Nov 4, 2014
John Stack Ross
Hi Nuru, Rajaa,
One approach is to deconstruct the mesh, then use PT - compose grid number from the mesh vertices (specify a number of rows that match your mesh).
John
Nov 4, 2014
Rajaa Issa
And you can certainly use mesh objects directly. The following examples uses ptMorph3d to morph a mesh box.
Let me know if you have a specific example you would like to do.
Nov 4, 2014
Nuru Karim
Thank-you. here's the attached screen shot for your reference.
I would also like to influence the u,v span numbers if possible.
Nov 4, 2014
Luke Orford
Hello
I was just wondering if its possible to panel a mesh model of a car.
meshcar.jpg
The image ive attached above i wish to turn into paneled type model.
Is this doable. sorry for the vague post im not quite sure how to approach this model.
Kind Regards
Luke
Jan 13, 2015
Rajaa Issa
Why would you like to panel the mesh? Do you have a sketch of the desired outcome?
Jan 13, 2015
Cfeldman
Hellow Rajaa !
Please...."Hello Rajaa, is it possible to panel mesh surfaces in grasshopper panelling tools OR NOT?
Yes ? how ???.........Thanks
Jan 13, 2015
Cfeldman
Why would you like to panel the mesh ?
Because that is the result that the person seach for his designs !!!.
(the skin for the mesh,etc).
Can apply the paneling tools over one mesh ?
Sorry, but in wich way-manier ?
Thanks you
captura%202.JPG
Jan 13, 2015
Cfeldman
Hellow
Jan 13, 2015
John Stack Ross
Cfeldman, I posted a Grasshopper screen capture to a similar question a couple of months ago. You can create a paneling grid from a mesh in Grasshopper. Deconstruct the mesh, then use PT - compose grid number from the mesh vertices (specify a number of rows that match your mesh).
Jan 13, 2015
Luke Orford
Hello Rajaa
I would like to panel in some sort of geometric patterns, its to create a sort of sculpture.
Thanks
Jan 14, 2015
Cfeldman
HelloJohn Stack
Thanks
(Ok...,i wil try it )
Jan 14, 2015
Rajaa Issa
The problem with mesh base is that it may not follow rectangular topology. It is a similar problem to turning meshes to nurbs. Sometimes you can extract construction curves (Use contour), then use those curves to generate paneling grids and apply panels. This technique might not work for all shapes, but it will get you closer. I hope this helps.
Jan 14, 2015
Luke Orford
Ok thanks, i will try to do it the way you suggested! Thank you for your help!
Jan 15, 2015
Lorenzo Franceschini
Hello!
I have a question. In grid point attractor, I have multiple points i want to assign different magnitude, how can i achieve that?
Thanks! :)
Feb 25, 2015
Rajaa Issa
Hi Lorenzo, there is no way to do that at the moment. The algorithm favors the closest attraction point and use the full magnitude to attract to the closest point. I will consider this for future development though.
Feb 25, 2015
Lorenzo Franceschini
Thank you Rajaa, yes i think it would be helpful in the future!
Meanwhile it is still possible to distort an already distorted grid, if the assigned magnitude is fixed, luckily the component is not heavy, so even if i run 3 or 4 components consequently it is still fast!
Thanks, looking forward for updates!
Feb 25, 2015