Beams with bending switched off transmit normal force only. A node that connects to such elements has three degrees of freedom. In case of a planar truss add out of plane supports at all nodes (see also subsection 'Bending stiffness' of section 'How to change beam properties' in the karamba manual).
I am especially interested in the feature: "Free-form structure under uniformly distributed loads - optimized cross sections and bending moments:" shown on the last image above. Is this a new feature? How to automatically apply that uniform load to a free form structure?
Absolutely great piece of work. I combined it with galapagos and it solved my problem in minutes! That was a 2 day work to export to Sap2000. Thanks for your beautiful work :)
I am using Karamba for structural analysis and optimization. I've been moving my GH components over to Rhino 5 and I'm having trouble with the Analysis component. Here are the steps I've gone through (3 times now).
1. Install latest Rhino 5 beta 64-bit. Keep old Rhino 4 install. 2. Copy over GH component files from Rhino 4 since you cannot specify the install directory when installing GH. Add GH as a plug in for Rhino 5. 3. Install Karamba Free 0.9.083 to Rhino 4. I tried to install Karamba to Rhino 5 beta (under C:\Program Files\Rhinoceros 5.0 Beta (64-bit)\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\Components) but when I install no files appear in the directory. 4. Copy all Karamba files to Rhino 5 directory.
5. Start Rhino 5 and GH. Karamba appears in the toolbar and everything appears fine, but I receive the below error from the Analysis component:
Error: Solution exception: The type initializer for 'fem.karambaPINVOKE' threw an exception.
Tx, Ty, Tz represent the freedom of a support to move in x, y and z direction (T for translate). the same holds for Rx, Ry, Rz but for a rotation around the respective axis. those directions can also be determined by a reference plane other than the world xyz system.
Black means the degree of freedom is restrained, while white means it is free to move.
the symbols you see in the drawing are possibilities to more apparently visualize a special support situation, e.g. having a member on a rolling wagon etc..
and hinged connections you can achieve either by using the 'modify beam' component and set the 'bending' input to false, or specify it more detailed by introducing 'cross section joints' on specific beam ids where you can set the same properties as for supports for each the start and the end node of a beam separately.
Hi all, where can I find the mkset tool, or where can I get it? I am experimenting with the stitching tools for trusses and need this tool to stitch a number of truss tension members to their corresponding compression member.
Please send me your machine.id file: Put a license component on the canvas, right-click on its icon and select 'Save machine.id' from the context menu.
Is it possible to create UPE cross sections [ - to be used in karamba? if so can I edit the csv file for cross sections to create my own table, for custom sections?
Hi Kane, it is currently not possible to use [-cross sections with Karamba.
In such cross sections the center of gravity and the center of shear do not coincide. The necessary algorithms to take that into account haven't been implemented yet in Karamba.
Hey all, i wana simulate the Dome reactions to the pressure included form -Z pressure, what is your best solution for defining the set of point for support and how can i find the way out of run time errors when i want to analyze this model? would you mind trying it on this definition and send me back? my pleasure,
I am working on a customised component with Visual Studio (vb.net).I would like to add radio buttons on the component, like on your Karamba Support Component. Could you explain how to do that ? I saw you were using MenuRadioButtonGroup, but this type is not recognized. Which extra reference do I have to import to have access to this ?
Thanks a lot Christoph, alias "the genius behind the customized user-interface elements". But you don't mind if we use your classes to improve our customised components (which are not to be sold of course) ?
As Karamba is not free, although Grasshopper is, it is not clear...
I made a small model to test eccentricity of cross section (find attached). It doesn't give expected results. where am I wrong ? Could you check? See the moment curves and shell stresses. We should have stresses in the whole thickness and of another form.
thaank you Michel Cassagnes, for your help on the dome! i couldn't open the file actually because of my gh version that should be upgraded! as Karamba said because i have a student version, the beam joints will not be there!
real thank you by the way i wanted to make the cross section i used for this model and define joints between the arcs!
Joshua Seskis
Any update on when the learning examples will be available? I feel like I just cant set up my modules right.
What type of accuracy or units do people work in for their Rhino file when they work with karamba?
Sep 29, 2011
Joshua Seskis
Here is some WIP to share:
Portal Frame Model
Portal Frame Model w/ Galapgos
CSV File for Sections
Deflections are not right at the moment but will sort them out tomorrow. Pretty happy with the models behaviour.
Sep 29, 2011
Joshua Seskis
Having some trouble getting a pinned truss to perform. It works if I allow the beams to bend but when its pin jointed it doesn't like it. Any ideas?
Arch%20Truss%20Karamba.gh
Is it because its trying to be pin jointed at the roller and pin supports? If so how do I remove that?
Oct 12, 2011
Karamba3D
Beams with bending switched off transmit normal force only. A node that connects to such elements has three degrees of freedom. In case of a planar truss add out of plane supports at all nodes (see also subsection 'Bending stiffness' of section 'How to change beam properties' in the karamba manual).
Oct 13, 2011
madmax
hey guys!
i want to try karamba example out of the manual, but analyze component turns red...
do you have any ideas where the problem is?
it would be nice if you could help me!
Oct 16, 2011
David Shook
Remarkable new version, very exciting developments. Keep up the good work!
Oct 31, 2011
Najna Sorin
I love the new version, too.
I am especially interested in the feature: "Free-form structure under uniformly distributed loads - optimized cross sections and bending moments:" shown on the last image above. Is this a new feature?
How to automatically apply that uniform load to a free form structure?
Nov 1, 2011
Karamba3D
Hello Najna,
you can use the MeshLoad-component to automatically generate point-loads from distributed loads.
Nov 2, 2011
sivam krish
Is there a plan to make the sectional profiles visible ? currently they all appear to be tubes ?
Nov 4, 2011
Karamba3D
I-sections should appear as I-sections, Boxes as boxes,...
Please post your definition in case karamba behaves differently.
Best, Clemens
Nov 6, 2011
Parametric House
Absolutely great piece of work. I combined it with galapagos and it solved my problem in minutes! That was a 2 day work to export to Sap2000. Thanks for your beautiful work :)
~Moe
Nov 11, 2011
David Shook
I am using Karamba for structural analysis and optimization. I've been moving my GH components over to Rhino 5 and I'm having trouble with the Analysis component. Here are the steps I've gone through (3 times now).
1. Install latest Rhino 5 beta 64-bit. Keep old Rhino 4 install.
2. Copy over GH component files from Rhino 4 since you cannot specify the install directory when installing GH. Add GH as a plug in for Rhino 5.
3. Install Karamba Free 0.9.083 to Rhino 4. I tried to install Karamba to Rhino 5 beta (under C:\Program Files\Rhinoceros 5.0 Beta (64-bit)\Plug-ins\Grasshopper\Components) but when I install no files appear in the directory.
4. Copy all Karamba files to Rhino 5 directory.
5. Start Rhino 5 and GH. Karamba appears in the toolbar and everything appears fine, but I receive the below error from the Analysis component:
Error: Solution exception: The type initializer for 'fem.karambaPINVOKE' threw an exception.
Mar 16, 2012
David Shook
Response from Karamba:
Karamba works on Rhino 32bit. It doesn’t do so for the 64bit-Version because the calculation core is a 32-bit-dll.
The next version of Karamba will work on 32 and 64-bit machines.
Mar 16, 2012
pyrit
hi @ll,
i have some probs with opening the example files.
e.g for LargeDeformationFormFinding_1.gh
maybbe you could ubdate - big thanks !
The archive contains an unrecognized object: Line to beam (karamba) {761b7152-1fb9-4b23-af3c-918d9c889da8}
This object cannot be deserialized
The archive contains an unrecognized object: Large deformation analysis (karamba) {346a8101-b0f3-4d61-b0e0-e85cdeb9d289}
This object cannot be deserialized
The archive contains an unrecognized object: Assemble Model (karamba) {fcd0a5ca-c3e5-433b-a2ad-ba41365116fd}
This object cannot be deserialized
May 3, 2012
pyrit
hey
i did dl the latest version of karamba @ your old site, so that was outdated . with new version by http://www.karamba3d.com/ it works
thanx
May 3, 2012
djordje
Support Conditions in Karamba
Few months ago, some member posted a preview of the Support Conditions in Karamba. Take a look:
I saved that image, but did not really understand it.
The black round circles, represent the option that should be checked? And what about the white circles? What do they represent?
Also the last part - hinged connections of the truss, I do not understand it. How to achieve the hinged connections among truss members?
Thank you.
Jun 9, 2012
Robert Vier
hey djordje!
Tx, Ty, Tz represent the freedom of a support to move in x, y and z direction (T for translate). the same holds for Rx, Ry, Rz but for a rotation around the respective axis. those directions can also be determined by a reference plane other than the world xyz system.
Black means the degree of freedom is restrained, while white means it is free to move.
the symbols you see in the drawing are possibilities to more apparently visualize a special support situation, e.g. having a member on a rolling wagon etc..
you could also post requests in our discussion forum http://www.grasshopper3d.com/group/karamba/forum rather than on the board ;)
best
Jun 10, 2012
Robert Vier
ah,
and hinged connections you can achieve either by using the 'modify beam' component and set the 'bending' input to false, or specify it more detailed by introducing 'cross section joints' on specific beam ids where you can set the same properties as for supports for each the start and the end node of a beam separately.
Jun 10, 2012
Kane Borg
Hi all, where can I find the mkset tool, or where can I get it? I am experimenting with the stitching tools for trusses and need this tool to stitch a number of truss tension members to their corresponding compression member.
Thanks
K
?
Aug 17, 2012
Karamba3D
it's in the 'Ensemble'-section.
Best,
C
Aug 18, 2012
Kane Borg
Aug 18, 2012
Kane Borg
Thanks K
Aug 18, 2012
Karamba3D
The component is missing due to an error in my compiler settings. I have sent you a corrected version.
Best,
Clemens
Aug 18, 2012
Karamba3D
Please send me your machine.id file: Put a license component on the canvas, right-click on its icon and select 'Save machine.id' from the context menu.
Best,
Clemens
Sep 26, 2012
j koeken
Hello,
I`m using karamba for my shell structure. With the analyzis
the displacements are given, the princ. stress do not work, how can
i solve this problem? See the pictures
I get the messages:
Error: Solution exception: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. Parameter name: index
J. Koeken
Oct 15, 2012
Nicolas
Just asked a stupid question, hadnt realized that rhino 4 was 32 bits and was trying to use Karamba 64.
Oct 17, 2012
Kane Borg
Is it possible to create UPE cross sections [ - to be used in karamba? if so can I edit the csv file for cross sections to create my own table, for custom sections?
Jan 5, 2013
Karamba3D
Hi Kane, it is currently not possible to use [-cross sections with Karamba.
In such cross sections the center of gravity and the center of shear do not coincide. The necessary algorithms to take that into account haven't been implemented yet in Karamba.
Best, Clemens
Jan 5, 2013
Rasmus Holst
Hi.
After using Karamba3d for a while, I came to think:
What does Karamba stand for? Any idea behind the name?
Jan 21, 2013
Karamba3D
Hi,
it comes from the Spanish word caramba; the main source of inspiration was Bart Simpson.
Best,
Clemens
Jan 21, 2013
Mahdi Soheyli Fard
Hey all,
i wana simulate the Dome reactions to the pressure included form -Z pressure, what is your best solution for defining the set of point for support and how can i find the way out of run time errors when i want to analyze this model?
would you mind trying it on this definition and send me back?
my pleasure,
Dome%20gh.gh
Dome.3dm
Jan 24, 2013
Michel Cassagnes
Hi Mahdi,
missing :
-cross section
-material
-identifiers
-bad mesh (mesh with Mesh/Utils/Mesh Brep)
-points
find the modified file :
Domegh%281%29.gh
Best regards,
Michel
Jan 26, 2013
Rasmus Holst
Simpsons: AY Karamba... Not sure how I will explain that to my supervisor... haha. Nice.
Jan 29, 2013
Guillaume Niel
Hi,
I am working on a customised component with Visual Studio (vb.net).I would like to add radio buttons on the component, like on your Karamba Support Component. Could you explain how to do that ? I saw you were using MenuRadioButtonGroup, but this type is not recognized. Which extra reference do I have to import to have access to this ?
Feb 2, 2013
Karamba3D
You you need to add a reference to karamba.gha.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 3, 2013
Karamba3D
The user-interface widgets are part of Karamba and not yet available separately.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 3, 2013
Guillaume Niel
How can I add a .gha reference with Visual Studio ? I can just import .dll, .tlb, .olb, .ocx, .exe and .manifest
Feb 3, 2013
Karamba3D
Add karamba.dll (which is the wrong file) first. Then use a text editor on the MSVC .sln-file and change karamba.dll to karamba.gha.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 3, 2013
Guillaume Niel
OK, I renamed .gha to .dll and it worked. Thanks a lot !
Last question : did you developped yourself all the classes needed to add radio buttons or, was it already available ?
Feb 3, 2013
Karamba3D
The classes were developed by Christoph Zimmel.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 4, 2013
Mahdi Soheyli Fard
How can i define joints in my models?
regards
Feb 4, 2013
Karamba3D
Use the 'Beam-Joints'-component.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 4, 2013
Mahdi Soheyli Fard
does "beam-jonits"- component have another name! :)
i cana find it by the way!
Feb 4, 2013
Karamba3D
It is part of the trial and pro-versions of Karamba.
Feb 4, 2013
Guillaume Niel
Well,
Thanks a lot Christoph, alias "the genius behind the customized user-interface elements". But you don't mind if we use your classes to improve our customised components (which are not to be sold of course) ?
As Karamba is not free, although Grasshopper is, it is not clear...
Feb 4, 2013
Michel Cassagnes
Hi Mahdi,
You should find it at : Cross Section/Beam Joints (the second item).
Feb 5, 2013
Michel Cassagnes
Hi Clemens,
I made a small model to test eccentricity of cross section (find attached). It doesn't give expected results. where am I wrong ? Could you check? See the moment curves and shell stresses. We should have stresses in the whole thickness and of another form.
Thanks!poutre_offset.gh
Feb 5, 2013
Karamba3D
Hi Michel,
thank's for the example. It looks like a bug in the determination of the cross section forces. I will have to check it.
Best,
Clemens
Feb 5, 2013
Mahdi Soheyli Fard
thaank you Michel Cassagnes, for your help on the dome! i couldn't open the file actually because of my gh version that should be upgraded! as Karamba said because i have a student version, the beam joints will not be there!

real thank you by the way
i wanted to make the cross section i used for this model and define joints between the arcs!
patupa.gh
Feb 5, 2013
Michel Cassagnes
Hi Mahdi,
Beam joints are also in the student version. Maybe just dowload the latest version.
Best regards
Feb 9, 2013