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Comment by ahmad heidari on January 8, 2016 at 1:33pm

dear  pirouz

Happy new year!

I have used the plug in that you give me(Syntactic) in my design process and the result graph is attached.Please comment on that graph.
thanks in advanced

بررسی جایگاه نحو فضا در فرآیند طراحی معماری.pdf

Comment by Pirouz Nourian on January 8, 2016 at 2:28am

Hi Junghwo, 

Happy new year! I guess it might be because the GHA is blocked by your system. Please right click on it in your components' folder and go to its properties and double check. Otherwise, please read Bruno's comment on another probable cause of this problem below. To open Grasshopper Developer Settings type it in your Rhino command line. 

Comment by Junghwo Park on January 7, 2016 at 4:27pm

Hi Pirouz Nourian,

Happy New Year!! Hope you took some rest:)

I have a problem to install SYNTACTIC_V_2.7

I have followed the exact steps from the instruction

Then I have copy and paste "SYNTACTIC Grasshopper Assembly (.GHA)" into my grasshopper components folder.

Unfortunately, All the components are missing.

I am using the most current Rhino Version 5 SR12 64-bit with Grasshopper 0.9.0076 

Could you please help me out?????? Thanks in advance

Comment by Pirouz Nourian on January 4, 2016 at 10:36am

Hi Bruno, 

Thank you for sharing your insight into installation problems. I need to inspect this issue more deeply. There might be an issue in my code referencing rhinocommon or grasshopper dlls. 

Best wishes for 2016!

Comment by Bruno Galvao on December 30, 2015 at 4:21pm

Hi Pirouz,

I had the same problem with the .gha fila loading as some of the others have asked(alois).

Intuitively, i went to "Grasshopper Developer Settings" And rechecked the "Memory Load .GHA with Coff byte arrays" box, which i had unchecked for another plugin, and it loaded Syntactic.

I don't really understand why, though. Maybe somebody can explain.

Hope it helps the others,

Bruno

Comment by kimia farahnak on December 9, 2015 at 4:28am

hi pirouz ,

now i understand,thank you so much for answering

hope we will soon see your new components,they seemed to be so cool and usefull in the pics!

good luck with your phd thesis.

Comment by Pirouz Nourian on December 9, 2015 at 3:12am

Hi Kimia, 

I need to clarify one thing... we did not want to generate plans automatically with these tools. Instead we wanted to 'enumerate and catalogue' topological layout possibilities corresponding to a graph. We made them to make a point that design can be procedural and started from connectivity graphs instead of shapes. It was already very difficult to generate the topological plan layouts at the left side of the image below (the result of the most complicated algorithm in the whole toolkit). After finishing it we kind of lost our interest in generating rectangular drawings and gave up realizing them (the rectangular drawings that you see at the right were made by unstable algorithms). Because they just show 'one of the possible ways' of creating a plan layout topology out of a topological map. I am following a more generic approach that will be much more interesting as it can help one to create free-form shapes as well as rectangular bubbles. This approach is based on 2D and 3D Isovist baubles: 

https://sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design

However, as I am busy with writing my dissertation I cannot promise releasing these tools any time soon. 

Having said all these, note that the analytic tools work independently from these generative tools. 

I hope these explanations help. 

Comment by kimia farahnak on December 8, 2015 at 12:51pm

hi pirooz first of all tnx by your great works,

second im trying to use automate plan generating methods,in my thesis,i found your plugin usefull for the step1, in ur pdfs i saw an item which was almost near an actual plan drawing,but i couldnt understand how i can get that result.here i point at the one i need to know how to draw it with your plugin

Comment by Pirouz Nourian on November 17, 2015 at 5:58am

Hi Zahra, 

This issue can be resolved by updating your Rhino and Grasshopper. 

I have checked your file as well. Note that the configuration you are trying to visualize as a coin-graph is not planar; that is you cannot draw the edges on a piece of paper avoiding crossings between them. However, the fact that you cannot draw this graph as a planar graph does not bother Space Syntax calculations. 

Comment by zahra msvi on November 17, 2015 at 4:14am

i send screenshot again.

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