go and sulk in the corner, my C# is non existent, although i am making progress on python unfortunately slower than my grasshopper.
Attached is a typical relatively simple planar grillage model for a bridge form that is common in Australia/NZ/Asia. The analysis package has a good graphical interface, however i am looking at replicating the process ideally with GH. I am getting there.
There are a few constraints in the use of a super T, the precast mould is governed by two critical dimensions:
1. from the beams soffit to the underside of the precast flange, normally Depth -75 or 100mm. Depths that are common are 1200/1500/1800.
2.The real sweet spot dimension is the 1027mm dimension to the outside of the webs, this is a constraint
The actual shapes of the prestressed beams are governened by AS5100:5 Appendix H (from memory)
In my definition I included the super T cross section which is parametric.
The other definition is where I have got to with the grillage.
I am a little one dimensional: point-line-surface-volume. I think I am getting to grips with manageing data i lists.
My ulimate aim is to:
generate basic geometry in gh, the type of analysis will be a space frame or FE, these analysis types require different geometries imported to a structural analysis package
ideally utilise IFC, for materials, 2D, 3D drawings and project documentation
At the moment I am looking to generate all of my gemetry in GH, that seems to generate a lot of doubled up geometry. Deconstruct Brep may become my favourite.
A little excesive is the inclined members spilt into the same no. of points at the grillage length.
again thanks for you time, oh! took a a few minutes to work out how to plug your def's in.
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Added by Kenyon Graham at 7:57pm on December 3, 2015
enerated their 3d shapes, but couldn't find what some of their types are:
This happens due to lack of Openstreetmap.org data attached to that building geometry. This data is called a "tag". A tag consist of two items connected with = character.
For example, an office building would have the following tag: building=office. Residential building tag would be: building=residential Ambulance station: emergency=ambulance_station The building, with 10 stories/floors would have a tag: building:levels=10
If you know that some building is an office building, a residential building, an ambulance station or anything other than that, you can tag that building by yourself. This is the beauty of the Open street map: any user with internet connection can add the content to the Open street map for free! Once you add the content (a tag/tags) Gismo would instantly be able to use it! Like this:
Here is a 5 minute tutorial on how to add a tag to a specific building at Openstreetmap.org.
Warning: adding tags and geometry to Openstreetmap.org is highly addictive activity! Use at your own risk!…
Added by djordje to Gismo at 4:55pm on May 9, 2017
Here I use one which has been refined with a 5 level subdivision...does it appear ok to you or would you recommend going even smaller? Green nodes are the ones loads act upon.
2) 'Local To Mesh' vs 'Global' vs 'Projected Global'
I am applying a positive wind pressure (0,729 kN/m2) in the direction of global positive y axis.
The façade mesh is 1505 m2, of which 1056 m2 runs parallel to the XZ plane.The wind pressure is 0,729 kN/m2 acting in the positive y direction ---> expected resultant of +/- 1056 x 0,729 = 770 kN.
'Global' gives +1098 kN in positive y direction.
'Global Projected' gives a +770 kN resultant in the positive y direction.
'Local to mesh'...gives -770kN along x axis (parallel to the façade according to ModelView) & -215kN along y axis. This surprised me since 'Local to mesh' is indeed the option to chose according to the manual yet I can't see how a wind load perpendicular to the facade would result in the tower moving in a cross-wind direction. 'Global projected' appears to provide the most logical result.
In view of these results, do you think the mesh remains ill-defined, the tower's shape is the culprit...or my choice of coordinate system for the load? What would you recommend?
Thanks again for your feedback, which is greatly appreciated.
Nathan
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cript that and I attempted tweaking it for several days but I'm having problems achieving the full idea i had.
Problem 1:
Once I Brep a frame of the original cube, and the hoopsnake starts, it does not always select the right face of the frame, sometimes chooses a face inside rather than the exterior one, therefore not always fitting pieces together nicely. I tried applying a bounding box to each frame and use the face of the bounding box as reference for the hoopsnake mirroring but I couldn't figure it out so i got rid of it. So I'm stuck...
Problem 2:
The other thing, is I'm wondering whether its possible to parametrize some sort of structural principle into the linear growth sequence in order for structure to retain realistic structural integrity. For example, when you start hoopsnake, the cube linearly grows (mirrors itself) towards the selected point(s); if the growth goes up and across, how would I make it reach a structural limit to make it go back down to the floor and back up again and continue? Could even be as simple as "after 5 frames/cubes vertically and across it goes back down and then up again towards the referenced point(s)" or something.
PS. "Reset All" in Hoopsnake before doing anything.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks in advance,
Cesco…
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I use rhino with the nurbsrelaxation plugin. Recently we have had rhino do some work to come up with an automated drawing tool via grasshopper.
Since grasshopper has been added to rhino i have noticed that when drawing surfaces and then using the nurbs tool the tools behaviour has changed and is now including iterations at the end of its process doubling the amount of time it takes to draw/finalise the surface/shape.
Below i have included 2 screenshots, the first one shows the surface(yellow edges), and then the cursor showing the nurbs icons (toolbar) and the rest of the info is in the command boxes.
The 2nd one shows info in the command line, detailing what happens once the tool is run (this is where you can see the iterations occuring).
Having done a little research i get the impression that this may be grasshopper related but cannot find any confirmation of this nor of anyone experiencing the same issue.
I also know that nurbsrelaxation is a plug in so not everyone will use this.
Can anyone help me with this as i would like to know why the iterations are occurring and if we can eliminate or reduce them.
Many thanks in advance
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Added by Matt Fairley at 4:08am on November 10, 2015
h tubes are redundant so surfaces overlap instead of interpenetrate, so it is not a good system.
Cocoon is the best answer these days unless you can get Exowire/Exoskelton to work. If you want more control over shape, feed your uncapped tubes into Cocoon as meta-surfaces and delete any and all of the inner meshes to just keep the outer single closed one, but this is just duplicate-culled lines used as meta-lines:
Turn down the CS input to 0.005 for this result, from 0.02 used for faster preview. In fact bake the lines and only test Cocoon on a few of them in order to get the result you want before doing the whole thing.
Whole thing at 0.005 cell size takes 5 minutes for Cocoon and 2 minutes for refinement to a smooth and even mesh.
Actually, seems like 0.005 is way too fine, giving a 600MB STL file.
So, 0.01 cell size at less than a minute total:
159MB STL which is still a bit too big for places like Shapeways. Wow. OK then 0.02 cell size, but I have to increase diameter or my two smoothing steps in refine collapse things too much, an in fact I set it to no smoothing, getting more volume and a reasonable 46MB STL file:
Alas, now it's more frail and overly organic rather than mechanical. Increasing diameter just merges it into perforated plates too much. File size is simply an issue with this complexity level, so different 3D printing services will have different file size limits.
Exowire/Exoskeleton would work but your original mesh hasn't been MeshMachine remeshed to be regular, so short segments ruin it. Here is just a corner:
I think that's why more wires fails, at least. Pretty temperamental component.
Switching to MeshMachine is needed, I guess, instead of Cocoon refine, to remesh away so many small triangles along the boring tubes. Crucial for good remeshing was to set Flip to 0 or I failed to get a rough enough mesh.
It's an adaptive mesh so I can retain good detail while roughing out the tubes.
MeshMachine is terribly slow for this whole thing, like 6 minutes, and blows up for this overly rough setting, 20 steps, so less rough, ugh, I'm out of time. I think free Autocad Meshmixer is the way to make a better smaller mesh, after a refined output from Cocoon. MeshMachine is just too slow to tweak and when it blows up, creating massive triangles jutting out, it hangs too when you change settings.
Starting with a Cocoon refined mesh certainly helped Meshmixer. Using triangle budget lets me have full control. Here is 150K triangles instead of 200K:
STL file size down to 40MB. I think Shapeways is 70 or 100MB limit? So it can be even finer. Here is the Cocoon output versus the Meshmixer reduction:
To use Meshmixer, turn on View > Show Wireframe, Command-S to select all and use Edit > Reduce from the palette that appears.
Cocoon can end up making a few inner meshes where things get weird in your uneven original mesh with small holes so fish out the main mesh by adding a List Item node.
The best strategy for Cocoon is indeed to make an overly fine STL so you avoid any need to tweak forever in Grasshopper, but then you can achieve a smaller mesh file size while preserving shape instead of things turning all smearly organic in Grasshopper.…
The PC actually stops working because after a few seconds the simulation starts the fan inside the PC all of a sudden stops and for the next 5-10 mins I cannot do anything, even alt+ctrl+canc. After I wait for that time i get the followig error:
the ReadMe says:
{0;0;0}0. Grid-based Radiance simulation1. The component is checking ad, as, ar and aa values. This is just to make sure that the results are accurate enough.2. -ar is set to 300.3. Good to go!4. Current working directory is set to: C:\Users\Luigi\Desktop\Prova__\Prova_1\gridBasedSimulation\5. Found a trans material... Resetting st parameter from 0.85 to 0.011276004966. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline7. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline8. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline9. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline10. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline11. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline12. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline13. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline14. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline15. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline16. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline17. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline18. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline19. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline20. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline21. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline22. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline23. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline24. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline25. 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The thing is that if I raise the -aa parameter from 0.05 to 0.1 all works fine..
Is this only related to my PC then?? What should I do to solve this issue?
Thanks again for your help
Luigi…
h, and using the BScale and BDistance are creating havoc somehow too. I've simplified first, and used the Kangaroo Frames component along with setting internal iterations, to make MeshMachine act like a normal component, along with releasing the FixC and FixV. The FixV didn't make any sense anyway. I've also set Pull to 0 to speed it up during testing, since much less calculation is involved to just let the meshes collapse, prevented from disappearing altogether by using a mere 15 iterations.
Also, your breps are open so that allows much more chaos and then collapse, though they did manage to close themselves too at times. Here is closed breps with a full 45 iterations:
So now that it's working, lets re-Fix the curves, and the problem arises that there is an extra seam line that is getting fixed too, running along the cylinder, stopping the mesh from pulling tight under tension wherever a vertex happens to be near that line:
So lets grab only the naked edge curves instead:
And what happens if we lose the end caps, now that we don't have an extra line skewing the result?:
There is no real curvature differences since it's not a curvy brep so the Adapt at full 1 setting has little to do. Now what does the BScale and BDist do? Nothing! Why? Your scale is out of whack, 99 mm high cylinders but only a falloff maximum of about 5, so let's make the falloff be 25 instead, but I must restore the end caps or the meshes collapse away for some reason and freezes Rhino for a minute or so the first time I try it:
It's a start.
If I intersect the cylinders, nothing changes, since they are being treated as separate runs. MeshMachine outputs a sequence of two outputs though, due to Frames being set to a bare minimum of 2 needed to get it to work, so I filter out the original run, which is just the unmodified initial mesh it creates.
The lesson so far is that closed meshes are much less prone to collapse and glitches leading to screw ups.
A Boolean union of the cylinders is when it gets funner, here show with and without the fixed curves that seem to define boundaries too where really there are just polysurface edges:
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Thanx……
can work in any node of a given hierarchy tree (loaded in your work session) by making the node "active". "Nodes" can be other things as well (like workplane, clip definitions etc).
Why to do that weird thing? Well, think any design being "flat" > meaning that all objects are placed in a single file (and in a single layer). Not that good > although the items are present you barely can handle them (because power is nothing without control, he he).
Let's go one step further: we can start classifying objects in "groups" (like a directories/files organization in any O/S). This means, in MCAD speak, creating assemblies (a void thing kinda like a directory) that contain components/entities (kinda like files).
Several steps further we end up with severely nested "arrangements" of entities (an assembly could be parent of something and child of something else).
For instance, it could be rather obvious the logical classification of a "geodetic" (so to speak) structure like this : a 40000m2 "hangar" defining some thematic park.
I mean : a void master that owns 4 equal void segment sets that own 4 "legs" that own various geodesic structural members + cables + membranes + you name it etc etc.
Each "leg" owns the concrete base (Shared) and a rather complex set of objects.
Notice that some tensile membrane "fixture" combos (see above)...act as perimeter light fixtures as well...meaning that the membrane tension plate may could be a child of a void "light" parent...or may could be a "stand alone" assembly etc etc.
These arrangements can be internal (belonging in, say, a x node within the current active file) or external (belonging in a y node within another file). If they deal with the same (topologically speaking) object they define clusters of Shared entities (or variations)- where only the view transformation matrix changes (in the simple scenario, he he). For instance the disk shown above is a Shared Assembly that owns the bolts, the plates, the tension member etc etc. Selective Instancing allows modifying some attributes without affecting the topology (i.e. the geometry).
The whole (terrible) mess is controlled by some tree like "dialog" (in Catia is "transparent") that is called Structure Browser. By controlled I mean (1) display/display mode with regard any tree member combo/selection set (assembly and/or component) in any View (2) clip state control (3) active status (for modifications/variations) (4) workplane control (5) drag and drop ownership control (6) ....
Now...what if I would chan…