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programme associant des composants et une structure de graphe interagissants avec le modèle Rhino.
Une bonne connaissance de Rhinocéros est nécessaire. La langue de la formation est le français.
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Grasshopper . Gestions des données : la logique de Grasshopper . Vecteurs, Points, Lignes, Surfaces : La
géométrie de Grasshopper . Listes, Arbres, Branches . Le dessin paramétrique: exercices divers et exemples
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Moda lité de la formation /
Venir avec un PC portable équipé de Rhinocéros version 4.0 SR 7 et de la dernière version du plug-in
Grasshopper (téléchargeable sur www.grasshopper3d.com).
Le coût du stage de 3 jours est de 1050 € HT par personne.
Réserver votre place dès que possible car les places sont limitées à 10 participants maximum.
Inscriptions et renseignements: Jacques Hababou, info AT rhinoforyou DOT com
Pour en savoir plus sur l’architecture paramétrique: www.complexitys.com…
nter the programming world and tinker more complex, interactive solutions. We will also explore advanced programming paradigms. There is no class official programming language, as both C# and Vb.Net are possible on the participant’s side, and all examples will be provided in both C# and Vb.Net. Additionally, we will see how to get started writing full .Net plug-ins. Finally, we will have time to explore user’s own proposals on the third day.
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• The Grasshopper scripting components. Choosing a .Net language. Language developments
• Variables declaration, assignment and utilization. Operators. Methods [functions]. Calls
• Classes: declaration and instancing. Constructors. Importing a namespace. On3dPoints, OnLines
• Arrays declaration and usage. Lists. Adding to arrays and lists, advantages and opportunities.
Afternoon: patterns
• About OOP (object oriented programming) as opposed to procedural programming. Discussion
• Example of OOP good code reuse: sorting points by coordinates using the .Net SDK classes
• Lists as input parameters. Trees as input parameters. Usage and limitations
• Finding resources: on the net with website that can help getting started and troubleshoot. And books
Day 2 Morning: extending Grasshopper functionality with our definitions
• Store data between updates. The use of fields [globals, or static locals]
• Examples on how to use stored data between updates: a simple agents simulation
• Baking geometry with scripting directly into the Rhino document. Baking with names
• Passing custom types from a scripted component to another one. Our own code reusability
• Rendering an animation from Grasshopper. How to get started and final results
Afternoon: customizing our tools
• Our Rhino plug-in with Visual Studio C# [Vb.Net] Express Edition & wizard. Parametric mesher
• Writing a custom Grasshopper component: hacking an exporter for our data to Excel
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creating the structural frame, finding the endpoints, linking these endpoints with curves and afterwards lofting the surfaces between the curves.
The results were quite nice, however, the procedure is very time consuming and inefficient. There is just too much copy-pasting involved.
(see attached file: "Old Attempts.zip" )
Mesh relaxation:
I have later on used Daniel Piker's tutorials on Mesh Relaxation and realized that this might be the way to go.
The link to these online tutorials on wewanttolearn.net is:
https://wewanttolearn.wordpress.com/2011/10/22/mesh-relaxation-kangaroo-tutorial/
His tutorials, however, only deal with mesh boxes which are ideal cubes. He then joins them together in various directions, but it is under 90 degrees angle.
( see attached file: "Daniel Pikers Examples" )
What I would like to achieve:
I want my bridges to go in all directions and angles, not just under 90 degree angle.
Ideally I would like to make a square (polygon) follow a curve (which moves in all axis) at certain number of division points. I would then loft these squares into a mesh and use that shape as a mesh box. I would later use this mesh box and relax it the same way as Daniel Piker used the cubes in his tutorial. The anchor points are only the vertices of the squares which create the lofted mesh box.
( see attached file: "New Attempts" )
As you can see below this procedure works even if the curve is moving in all directions not only along xy axis. There are, however, many problems connected to it.
The problem:
Despite all the effort I cannot seem to come up with a design where I would be able to draw a random curve which would be the guideline for my mesh box and then apply this box to one definition in order to relax the mesh and create the shape that I want. Without this I am again forced into a lot of copy pasting as the final mesh box is made out of several sections.
Also is there any way I could make the final resulting mesh a bit smoother? Increasing the number of mesh faces is probably the only way, right?
Thank you guys so much for any potential help.
All best,
Luka
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DP ($$$ aside), GC, and Grasshopper. Arthur’s original question is very important
and the exact question (and hopefully answer) I was hoping to find on a
forum.
“How to take intelligent 3D parametric generative design models (scripting, etc.) into 2D documents?" Or, deliver the 3D design for evaluation, bid, construction, etc.
I am intrigued by Jon’s comments in the same thread and would like to know how I can learn more about the process (and
pitfalls) of turning over a 3D digital generative models to a contractor/fabricator.
Are there any industry guidelines established I could use as a reference to guide our firm through this type of uncharted territory?
Arthur’s question is very reminiscent of 10 years ago when I was frustrated with the amount of time spent on the development of a 3D model design (physical and/or virtual) only to have to wipe the table clean and start the process all over again in 2D in order to document the project for delivery. From this I jumped head first into BIM and Revit, vowing never to go back to unintelligent 2D line work. I am now working on Bentley software (v8i: Microstation and Bentley Architecture) with the access and desire to venture into Generative Components. I am very intrigued by Rhino/Grasshopper primarily with the apparent ease of use and available resources assisting in the learning process – something not really available with Bentley.
In hindsight, as I am doing my software research I think the current use of Revit and BA (Bentley Architecture) are more of a “bridge”
between the past (decades of digital 2D work, i.e. AutoCAD) and where hopefully
we all will be someday in the near future (100% 3D modeling, i.e. Digital
Project??). Without having the experience
it would appear that DP/CATIA (PLM software) are closer to this than any other
type of software. As complicated as the
industry standards are for the automobile and airline industry, I feel we
(architectural industry and others) are heading in a similar direction with
total understanding (PLM/ Evidence Based Design) of a design (a whole other topic). If anything I think the market will begin to
demand it sooner or later.
Gehry (DP) article NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/business/11gehry.html
I know these type of broad discussions (software vs. software) can be blown out of proportion on forums, but I am would like to read
the pulse of those who are already in the trenches (using Grasshopper, CATIA, Digital Project, Generative Components, others??) and hear your thoughts. Just as valuable would be other threads,
industry articles/reviews of 3D parametric generative design software.
Thanks,
Boyd…
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ceros.
Public concerné /
Architectes et designers, utilisateurs de Rhino souhaitant paramétrer Rhinocéros à l’aide de Grasshopper, programme
associant des composants et une structure de graphe interagissants avec le modèle Rhino.
Une bonne connaissance de Rhinocéros est nécessaire. La langue de la formation est le français.
Structure et Objectif de la formation /
La formation se déroule sur 3 jours : les 2 premières journées sont consacrées aux « fondamentaux » de Grasshopper
avec en préambule une introduction au design et à l’architecture paramétrique et leurs impacts dans la conception, la
création et la construction.
La troisième journée sous forme d’atelier est dédiée à l’étude de cas concrets proposés par les stagiaires, qui, quelques
jours avant la formation, pourront envoyer leurs projets par mail à info AT rhinoforyou DOT com
Les stagiaires, après la formation, pourront rester en contact avec les formateurs de HDA par le biais du blog
complexitys.com et le twitter @HDA_Paris. La durée de cette formation permettra d’atteindre une autonomie et une
bonne compréhension basée sur des exemples concrets.
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Programme ind icatif des notions traitéES pendan t la formation /
Introduction à la conception Paramétrique . Rhinoscript, Grasshopper: différences et similarités . Interface
graphique de Grasshopper . Objets, Données, Listes . Opérateurs scalaires : La mathématique de
Grasshopper . Gestions des données : la logique de Grasshopper . Vecteurs, Points, Lignes, Surfaces : La
géométrie de Grasshopper . Listes, Arbres, Branches . Le dessin paramétrique: exercices divers et exemples
. Références, Bibliographie, Support de cours . Ateliers d’architecture et design paramétrique (3ème jour) .
Moda lité de la formation /
Venir avec un PC portable équipé de Rhinocéros version 4.0 SR 7 et de la dernière version du plug-in
Grasshopper (téléchargeable sur www.grasshopper3d.com).
Le coût du stage est de 350 € HT/jour par personne.
Réserver votre place dès que possible car les places sont limitées à 10 participants maximum.
Inscriptions et renseignements: Jacques Hababou, info AT rhinoforyou DOT com
Pour en savoir plus sur l’architecture paramétrique: www.complexitys.com…
whole design intent, but this is what Inventor is good at. The way it packages bits of 'scripted' components into 'little models' that can be stored and re-assembled is central to MCAD working.
The Inventor model shown is almost 5 years old. We don't model like that any more, however it does offer a good idea of general MCAD modeling approaches.
iParts is useful in certain situations, it could've been useful in the above model, its usefulness is often in function of the quantity of variants/configurations.
So much is scripted in GH, maybe it should also be possible to script/define/constrain/assist the placement/gluing of the results?
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Starting point: I think we are talking across purposes. AFAIK, the solving sequence of GH's scripted components is fixed. It won't do circular dependencies... without a fight. The inter-component dependencies not 'managed' like constraints solvers do for MCAD apps.
Components and assemblies are individual files in MCAD.
Placement of these within assemblies in MCAD is a product of matrix transforms and persistent constraints. There is no bi-directional link, the link is unidirectional (downflow only), because of the use of proxies.
Consequently, scripting the placement of components is irrelevant in GH, unless you decide that each component needs to be contained in its own separate file.
This also brings up the point that generating components and assemblies in MCAD is not as straightforward. In iParts and iAssemblies, each configuration needs to be generated as a "child" (the individual file needs to be created for each child) before those children can be used elsewhere.
You notice the dilemma, if you generate 100 parts, and then you realize you only need 20, you've created 80 extra parts which you have no need for, thus generating wasteful data that may cause file management issues later on.
GH remains in a transient world, and when you decide to bake geometry (if you need to at all), you can do that in one Rhino file, and save it as the state of the design at that given moment. Very convenient for design, though unacceptable for most non-digital manufacturing methods, which greatly limits Rhino's use for manufacturing unless you combine it with an MCAD app.
One of the reasons why the distributed file approach makes perfect sense in MCAD, is that in industry you deal with a finite set of objects. Generative tools are usually not a requirement. Most mechanical engineers, product engineers and machinists would never have any use for that.
The other thing that MCAD apps like Inventor have, is the 'structured' interface that offers up all that setting out information like the coordinate systems, work planes, parameters etc in a concise fashion in the 'history tree'. This will translate into user speed. GH's canvas is a bit more freeform. I suppose the info is all there and linked, so a bit of re-jigging is easy. Also, see how T-Flex can even embed sliders and other parameter input boxes into the model itself. Pretty handy/fast to understand, which also means more speed.
True. As long as you keep the browser pane/specification tree organized and easy to query.
:)
Would love to understand what you did by sketching.
I'll start by showing what was done years ago in the Inventor model, and then share with you what I did in GH, but in another post.
Let's use one of the beams as an example:
We can isolate this component for clarity.
Notice that I've highlighted the sectional sketch with dimensions, and the point of reference, which is in relation to the CL of the column which the beam bears on. The orientation and location of the beam is already set by underlying geometry.
Here's a perspective view of the same:
The extent of the beam was also driven by reference geometry, 2 planes offset from the beam's XY plane, driven by parameters from another underlying file which serves as a parameter container:
Reference axes and points are present for all other components, here are some of them:
It starts getting cluttered if you see the reference planes as well:
Is I mentioned earlier, over time we've found better ways to define and associate geometry, parameters, manage design change, improving the efficiency of parametric models. But this model is a fair representation of a basic modeling approach, and since an Inventor-GH comparison is like comparing apples and oranges anyways, this model can be used to understand the differences and similarities, for those interested.
I haven't even gotten to your latest post yet, I will eventually.…
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ike using something like the Z vector, but technically you can use any vector you want. This vector will actually determine the static rotatation of all the planes, so you can control that here if you like. One important thing that I've noticed is that the closer the vector is to the plane of the curve or if its too similar to one of the tangent vectors, the more likely you'll have "flipping"
2) Take the cross product between the tangent and the static vector. This will be your first perpendicular vector, which you can use for the X component of the plane.
3) Take the cross product between the tangent and the result of the previous cross product. Use this result as the Y component of the plane. All three components (X, Y, and Z (which is the tangent vector)) are all perpendicular to each other now.
After you've done that you should have planes that decrease twisting. If your curve is not planar, then there will always be some twisting in the frames, but it will be minimal enough to use them effectively.
There also may be "flipping" within the frames, which means one (or both) of two things. First, you could have planes that have reversed their vectors, so the X vector is properly oriented, but pointing down when it should be pointing up. Second, the X and Y vectors could have potentially swapped, so that Y "should" be X and X "should" be Y. In order to check these things, you'll need to do a few tests. The first one is find out whether the vector (X or Y) of the plane your testing is pointing in the opposite direction of previous vector. The second test is to find out whether the vector (X or Y) of the plane your testing is perpendicular to the previous vector. In both cases, an angle test between the two vectors will be able to tell you what you need to know, but you will likely NEVER get exactly 180 for an opposite test or 90 for a perpendicular test. That means that you have to choose a range with which to determine that a given vector is opposite or perpendicular.
You should start testing the X vector to see if anything is wrong. If you find that the X vector is fine, then just move on because Rhino will only allow you to create right handed planes, and the Z vector (the tangent) will always be the same.
I don't believe that there's a native function within the old dotNET SDK for calculating angles, so use the example at the link below. It basically takes the arcCosine of the Dot Product of the two vectors your testing to return the angle in Radians. I'm not sure if this function is included in RhinoCommon or not....
http://wiki.mcneel.com/developer/sdksamples/anglebetweenvectors…