d the fact that one pipe goes out and one goes in, that the surface normal direction is opposite for the two surfaces? Based on an earlier thread, you should know why by now. The two curves have opposite directions (again!); see the white arrows using Rhino 'Analyze | Direction'?
As before, you can fix that by flipping one curve to match the other. HOWEVER, you connected your curves directly to the 'Divide' components instead of using 'Crv' geometry params - bad form. And as before, you "fixed it" by reversing the list of starting points ('S' input to 'BiArc'). Better like this - 'Crv' params are internalized, no need for Rhino file:
Well, well! That didn't fix the opposite surface normals after all! Trust me, though, using geometry params and being conscious about matching curve directions is "best practice". But I haven't lofted 'BiArc' curves for awhile, it's late and I want to move on. OH! I just noticed that you reversed the 'Z' direction for one half of the 'BiArc' - that explains it:
Moving on... You've basically got it, though I would do it differently - same result, like this:
I haven't really explained surface normal vectors - can you figure it out from here? One more little wrinkle (Normal_2017Mar17b.gh):
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Synonyms
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And use component:
com·po·nent
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Noun
A part or element of a larger whole, esp. a part of a machine or vehicle.
Adjective
Constituting part of a larger whole; constituent.
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n to finding a concave contour polyline (which is in general what you need). In your case each contour section contains a series of points of which you do not know the order and you need to sort them so that by connecting them you find the contour. This is fairly easy to do when the contour is convex (basically you find the average point then calculate the vectors from the average to the points and sort the vectors by angle - sorting the points by the same angle gives you the right order for the contour), but generally impossible to find uniquely when the contour is concave (PS: convex means that, for ANY 2 points inside the figure, a straight line connecting them doesn't intersect with the border curve - i.e. circles, ellipses, rectangles, triangles - concave shapes are a star, a crescent moon, an arrow, a boomerang, etc.).
The problem goes like this: given a generic list of points:
Each of these configurations for a perimeter equally fits the above:
Laurent already went for another possible solution, the stochastic approach (by subdividing the connecting lines), I slightly adjusted a few things over his solution:
namely, I added a rounding option to adjust for some weird tolerance issues (some points that should be at Y=80 were at Y=79.99998 or something) and a more straightforward solution to group them by section plane using sets logic. This, coupled with alpha shape, gives a quite good approach, still very coarse in terms of results but that depends on the sampling resolution of the field (i.e. number of height sections in which you calculate the metaballs) and sampling length of the connecting lines.
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Diffraction , I left it, how it is.
For the unusual issues that comes in the image source component, so, is it something strange? But, I still have the same issues when I sets any integer component (single or multiple) in the “reflection order” of the image source component, in the “image source order” in the ray tracing component, and again, when I connect the output “Direct sound data” of Direct Sound component in the Energy Time Curve.
Do I wrong something with the integer component? I used it already in the first parts, for sets “grasshopper layers”, in the “Scene” component, but here it works. Should I start with a new file?
For the multi-object optimization, thank you for all suggestions. Yes, I red PHD thesis work of Tomas Mendez and the article “ EDT, C80 and G Driven Auditorium design” and still others. Thank you to all these articles, I decided where to focus my thesis.
I understand the potential of Multi-object optimization, and problems that I can finding without using it. Actually, in the beginning of my thesis, I tried to jet in contact with the Politecnico di Torino, but was not easy because I’m not a Politecnico student.
Here, in University of Florence (Building engineering), there isn’t a department or someone that is already familiar with these field of study, so, as you can image, for design my thesis, I can confide on online resources. So far, my Professor suggest me to begin with a Nonlinear Global optimization like Galapagos, and only after see the multi-object. In this way, step by step if something doesn’t work is easier to understand way and where something is going wrong: if are problems due to the setting of the programs, because we are not practical about these, or if there is a wrong in the simulations or in the algorithm and ect.
Do you think is a good way for go on?
Thank you very much,
Kind Regards
Giulia
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hopper no requiere de conocimientos de programación o scripting para permitir al diseñador trabajar de forma generativa y paramétrica. No son necesarios conocimientos previos de Grasshopper pero sí de Rhino a nivel básico.
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phere with the maximum number of triangles but not much than a defined threshold.
I scaled that mesh just to fit Rhino grid, but it is not mandatory. What is useful, is to scale not uniformly the mesh (Scale NU). It could be done after cellular modifier applied or before or before and after. The 3 options are possible in the script. If you don’t need them just put 1 in scale sliders.
Ellipsoid mesh is the populated with points, I put 2 independents populations to randomize a bit further. For each vertices of the mesh the closest distance from the populated points is calculated.
Here is an illustration in color of this distance.
This distance is then used to calculate a bump. If domain for bump is beginning with negatives values to 0, it carves the mesh. Instead it bumps/inflates it.
Some images to illustrate the difference with populating 100 points with one or two populations.
Here some images to illustrate the application of scale before carving or after.
Next phase apply noise. At the moment I don't find it good.…
DP ($$$ aside), GC, and Grasshopper. Arthur’s original question is very important
and the exact question (and hopefully answer) I was hoping to find on a
forum.
“How to take intelligent 3D parametric generative design models (scripting, etc.) into 2D documents?" Or, deliver the 3D design for evaluation, bid, construction, etc.
I am intrigued by Jon’s comments in the same thread and would like to know how I can learn more about the process (and
pitfalls) of turning over a 3D digital generative models to a contractor/fabricator.
Are there any industry guidelines established I could use as a reference to guide our firm through this type of uncharted territory?
Arthur’s question is very reminiscent of 10 years ago when I was frustrated with the amount of time spent on the development of a 3D model design (physical and/or virtual) only to have to wipe the table clean and start the process all over again in 2D in order to document the project for delivery. From this I jumped head first into BIM and Revit, vowing never to go back to unintelligent 2D line work. I am now working on Bentley software (v8i: Microstation and Bentley Architecture) with the access and desire to venture into Generative Components. I am very intrigued by Rhino/Grasshopper primarily with the apparent ease of use and available resources assisting in the learning process – something not really available with Bentley.
In hindsight, as I am doing my software research I think the current use of Revit and BA (Bentley Architecture) are more of a “bridge”
between the past (decades of digital 2D work, i.e. AutoCAD) and where hopefully
we all will be someday in the near future (100% 3D modeling, i.e. Digital
Project??). Without having the experience
it would appear that DP/CATIA (PLM software) are closer to this than any other
type of software. As complicated as the
industry standards are for the automobile and airline industry, I feel we
(architectural industry and others) are heading in a similar direction with
total understanding (PLM/ Evidence Based Design) of a design (a whole other topic). If anything I think the market will begin to
demand it sooner or later.
Gehry (DP) article NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/business/11gehry.html
I know these type of broad discussions (software vs. software) can be blown out of proportion on forums, but I am would like to read
the pulse of those who are already in the trenches (using Grasshopper, CATIA, Digital Project, Generative Components, others??) and hear your thoughts. Just as valuable would be other threads,
industry articles/reviews of 3D parametric generative design software.
Thanks,
Boyd…
GH, same as using sweep2 command in Rhino.
The one on the right is what I got so far (the output smooth our the kink of the original rails). Basically I am just following the methods provided by sdk sample: http://wiki.mcneel.com/developer/sdksamples/sweep2 .
The following is the function I copy and use directly from the SDK sample. By using this function, I can generate the sweep surface at right. But I want to have is the one in the middle with the kink edges. Can anyone show me how and where to modify he settings? I guess some sweep arguments need to be changed? I have try couples, such m_simplify, m_bSimpleSweep, m_bSameHeight, m_rebuild_count... but still cannot find a right combination for this function to output the sweep surface I want. Any suggestions or helps are very appreciated. Thanks for your help and time on this.
'Sweep2 function'----------------
Sub Sweep2( ByVal Rail1 As IOnCurve, _
ByVal Rail2 As IOnCurve, _
ByVal sCurves As List(Of IOnCurve), _
ByRef Sweep2_Breps As List(Of OnBrep))
'Define a new class that contains sweep2 arguments
Dim args As New MArgsRhinoSweep2
'Set the 2 rails
Dim Edge1 As New MRhinoPolyEdge
Dim Edge2 As New MRhinoPolyEdge
Edge1.Append(Rail1.DuplicateCurve())
Edge2.Append(Rail2.DuplicateCurve())
'Add rails to sweep arguments
args.m_rail_curves(0) = Edge1
args.m_rail_curves(1) = Edge2
args.m_bClosed = False
Dim section_curves As New List(Of OnCurve)
'Loop through sections to set parameters
For Each Section As IOnCurve In sCurves
Dim sCurve As OnCurve = Section.DuplicateCurve()
section_curves.Add(sCurve)
Dim t0 As Double = 0
If Not Edge1.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAtStart(), t0) Then
If Not Edge1.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAtEnd(), t0) Then
Dim s As Double = 0
sCurve.GetNormalizedArcLengthPoint(0.5, s)
Edge1.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAt(s), t0)
End If
End If
args.m_rail_params(0).Append(t0)
Dim t1 As Double = 0
If Not Edge2.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAtStart(), t1) Then
If Not Edge2.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAtEnd(), t1) Then
Dim s As Double = 0
sCurve.GetNormalizedArcLengthPoint(0.5, s)
Edge2.GetClosestPoint(sCurve.PointAt(s), t1)
End If
End If
args.m_rail_params(1).Append(t1)
Next
'Set shapes
args.m_shape_curves = section_curves.ToArray
'Set the rest of parameters
args.m_simplify = 0
args.m_bSimpleSweep = False
args.m_bSameHeight = False
args.m_rebuild_count = -1 'Sample point count for rebuilding shapes
args.m_refit_tolerance = RMA.Rhino.RhUtil.RhinoApp.ActiveDoc.AbsoluteTolerance()
args.m_sweep_tolerance = RMA.Rhino.RhUtil.RhinoApp.ActiveDoc.AbsoluteTolerance()
args.m_angle_tolerance = RMA.Rhino.RhUtil.RhinoApp.ActiveDoc.AngleToleranceRadians()
Dim sBreps() As OnBrep = Nothing
If (RhUtil.RhinoSweep2(args, sBreps)) Then
For Each b As OnBrep In sBreps
Sweep2_Breps.Add(b)
Next
End If
Return
End Sub
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