So, here's an example of what happens when I try to get it to work.

Thats the definition...

Now, the result..

Now, Where is the label that says which box represents which room. I mostly figure that out myself but that is very counterproductive. I use an application that makes me pick up the pen and paper. Suggest something.

Regards

Hey Pirouz,

How are you doing?

I keep using your plugin, start to get used to it. My professor love it, it helped me a lot. During my work with it I sometimes find bloopers and would like to drop some wishes.

For example it would be super useful to be able to bake Justified Graph to work with it later. Specifically, I think it would be useful for it to have geometry outputs. For example with other plugins I can convert colored circles (which I assume are surfaces) into hatches and safely export them into AI and work with nice fills from there (avoid filling it up myself this way).

Or you could make them to be hatches when they are baked.

Also, input for text color is essential. Since I can't bake it I have to take a screenshot but white text will just disappear on my (so happens) white presentation poster.

It is a really beautiful graph, I can see the logic or a problem clearly from it, but it can be much better, text can be centered to its bubble and resized to fit in and so on.

Hello again,

Also I think it would be nice to add a piece of code that tries to avoid intersections in Justified Graph

@  Chandan Chaturvedi 

Please follow the way it is done in the example file. There you can see how to use the attributes to keep track of the spaces in your configuration. In principle, the order of the spaces does not get disrupted when they go through the process; that is if the graph is planar and sufficient links to the sides are provided. You can do the labeling and similar tasks with native components of GH. BTW, do not expect the rectangular drawing components to do the job properly, they are only place holders. Check the example file and read the "read me" notes please. 

Hi Tim, Thanks for your suggestions and compliments. I am fine and getting closer to my defense ceremony I presume :). I have posted a C# snippet previously here for baking the balls of a bubble diagram as colored meshes. Have you tried that? I will try to find it from here and re-post it. It does not do all you have asked for, but it is something to start with. You can then perhaps adjust the texts separately using GH native components.  

Hey Pirouz,

Great to hear, please don't worry about the snippet, I'll find it myself.

What you say is that it is possible to assign names through tags to corresponding bubble and from there just tweak and bake the tag.

I found it extremely useful to work with pipeline component with your plugin. I guess you know why (although not without some trickery))). Also, it seems more efficient to name the geometry and with Human plugin retrieve these names to each bubble accordingly.

Just to be on the same page, are you talking about C_Disk_PZN_Corrected.gh?

If yes, I just checked it, maybe I haven't gotten it yet, but how does it bake justified graph (it doesn't even have any outputs, which is the problem)

Yes Tim, that is the component I meant. Indeed it cannot do the job as is because the Justified Graph Component doesn't have an output. That component has one of the biggest chunks of code... Let me see if I can rewrite it to get an output from it. 

Please do if you have time, if not with code, I could rearrange intersecting bubbles in AI if have baked geometry. Meshes are ok too, I can convert them to hatches with Human or FabTools plugins.

Also text is very important, if possible to output it as a text that would be most useful.

Hey Pirouz,

I would like to ask about the entrophy parameter that is connected with the integration. In the paper 'designing with space syntax' there's explanation about the formula that you used to get the measurement for each parameter but how about the entrophy? I'd really love to know where do the numbers come from. Thanks in advance! 

Hi Arindra, 

Hi Pirouz,

thank you so much for your quick answer! I really appreciate it. :)

hello;
firstly , thanks alot for this helpful plugin.
i'm having a problem with Triangulate component that show Error:1.Solution exception:value cannot be null. but i can't solve it.
please helpe me.

SYNTAZTIC_NewVersion_PublicRelease_0.2.7.gh

SYNTACTIC_NewVersion_sample_2.7.3dm

Hello Mehrnoosh, 

The problem with your file is that the configuration you are trying to realize as a plan layout is not planar. That means there can be no drawing of your configuration graph on a piece of paper without its edges (links) crossing each other. That is not a software issue, but a theoretical limitation. If you want to get a result from the methods, you need to remove a few links so that the graph becomes a planar graph. 

I apologise in advance for my poor English. Is it possible with space syntax to make 2D/3D visibility analysis? (I rode about the isovist bubble)

Dear Pirouz,

First, I would like to thank you for developing this tool, I find it very useful and well developed. I am currently working at UK AECOM and involved in various projects related to urban space. I believe this tool is under the following licence: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported Li.... Thus, we cannot use it for commercial purposes. 

I wonder can we discuss on how we can use this tool for commercial purposes at AECOM?

Best regards,

Shayan 

Dear Shayan, 

 Thanks for your kind words; and apologies for responding late. Happy to hear that you find the tools useful in practice. Regrading the licensing, we have been thinking of changing the license towards a more-open one. For the time being, I can write to your email and grant permission free of charge to use the tools, on the condition that 'some' results are shown to public with attribution to the toolkit, including on this platform. You can send me an email on p.nourian@tudelft.nl

Thank you a lot, I'm waiting the 3d plug-in

can anyone please upload a working gh script with NEWS vertices and dual graph??? i couldnt link them properly..it states error evrytym

@Pranav: you can check the example files included in the installed file. Note that the NEWS graph can only work on a certain class of graphs that are called 3 connected. These graphs cannot be torn apart unless at least three links of them are cut. 

Hello, dear Pirouz
I have used SYNTATIC in an analysis of an urban area and I have  common miss measurements that the relationship between local and global integration is negative correlation and logically, it must be positive. I have attached the. GH and. 3dm files. I hope you help me to fix this error. thank you in advance

locaandglobalintegration.gh

Sample.rar

Hi Salma, I'm currently busy with my defense planned for next Friday and cannot work on the files; however, I do not see why you should expect a positive correlation between local and global integration in every situation? Where does this rule come from? In Space Syntax literature, if there is such a positive correlation people consider the configuration to be illegible. That is all I can recall about this. Could you please elaborate?

working on a new set of tools for adjacency tables. will release them one by one:

Great news, glad to hear that.

and here are two more features from the same tool:

I don't understand what I see (yet), but I like it. 

Hi, we are going to release the latest version of CONFIGURBANIST as a dll library (API) that can be accessed through C# and VB.NET components. In the meantime, I thought you could try and test the modules and provide suggestions. It comes with some goodies useful along with SYNTACTIC tools, such as Spectral Graph Drawing and Matrix Plots. Simple connectors are also provided for SYNTACTIC and SpiderWeb. This new toolkit is in some ways fundamentally different from the version you have been using so far. For more info please check my dissertation: 

http://abe.tudelft.nl/index.php/faculty-architecture/issue/archive

if you don't have the time to read this, check this one out:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303944600_Spectral_Modelli...

If you want to try this version you need to install two libraries in your Grasshopper/Special Folders/Components Folder

* Math.NET (MathNet.Numerics.dll): http://www.mathdotnet.com/

* Configraphics_CS.dll (the library to be completed by me)

Please note that because this package uses Math.NET their licencing terms apply as well as those of mine. Please read the Read-Me panel in the file.

If you want to write a C#/VB snippet to do something in connection to this package we'd be happy to help you with that (as much as the schedules and other things allow us) and eventually involve you as a developer in the next versions. 

Our vision for the next versions is to connect/integrate this package with SYNTACTIC and SpiderWeb. 

I will replace some of the groups with better/newer modules in the coming days. Stay tuned. 

CONFIGURBANIST_Nov2016_TestVersion.gh

Configraphix_CS.dll

NOTE: This file is a Work-in-Progress and likely to contain bugs and errors. Use at your own risk. In no circumstances the authors (mentioned in the CC licence above) can be held responsible for any kind of damage (hardware, software or other kinds of property) caused by using these packages. The package does not come with any sort of guarantee. 

Hello

How was demonstrated three-dimensional “isovist” by using GrassHopper

Do the same plug-SYNTACTIC done?

Hi, yes this is a C# component which will be included in the 'next' version of SYNTACTIC.  

Hi

Do SYNTACTIC plug is able to do separately calculate the mean depth "MD" or "TD" (in space syntax theory) such as Different factors, Selection and Integration?

Hi, Yes, you can easily make TD and MD values by using the Depth Tree output of the integration component and using a Mass Addition component. Difference Factor is separately provided as a component. 

Hi

Do you mean using “Mass addition” to achieve MD is this picture?

as far as I know According to the functionality of this component does not seem to be able to provide the mean depth.

If possible further advice Thank you.

hi, this is a way to do this:

Hi, May I ask you to explain how to create Weighted Voronoi Diagram? 

Hi Yalda, you can use it like the grasshopper's Voronoi diagram component with a list of points and a boundary curve plus a list of areas to be used as the weights. You can check the demo file for an example. The demo file comes in the installed folder.

Thanks for explanation but I didnt have any result because of an error on radii data.As Im beginner user, I still dont know is there the logical relation between radii and boundry curve or just a restrictive...

Hi Yalda, please make sure the units of the Rhino file and the radii values are the same (e.g. meters). If you aim for large radii when the boundary is small you'll get errors because the boundary cannot fit circles that big. Please start from the example file. If something went wrong again, please attach your file to a comment here and I'll look at it. 

Hi, 

I am very new in GH. I want to use ForceDirectedGraph lines to set proximity relations with points. Because I want to use areas as constrains for point proximity in a plan organization. However, I cannot get those r values from graph. Thanks in advance.

relations.jpg

@ h 

Hi, you can get the radii of circles by making an expression like Sqrt(A/pi), where pi equals 3.1415 and A is the area of the corresponding circle. this is because the area of each circle is pi*r^2 (pi times r squared)

Yes, I know that but ForceDirectedGraph component only gives center of the circles within the graph. I wonder that it could give the areas of the circles in tangent position. I think I should calculate myself, as you told. Thanks. 

Hi Everyone!

I'm new in Space Syntax and now I have problem when trying to make the triangulation. I follow the example and also read the pdf but couldn't really find the solution.here is the screenshot:

ss.PNG

sss.PNG

anyone knows what is the problem?

thank u:)

Hi Asal, 

Could you please post the content of the error message and an image of the network that is to be triangulated? It could be that there is no possible triangulation or that the number of triangulations is smaller than 9 (9=8-1). 

BTW, I'd suggest you look at the chapters 3 & 4 of my dissertation for an overview of the processes supported by the toolkit. http://abe.tudelft.nl/index.php/faculty-architecture/article/view/n...

Hi pirouz

tnx for your quick response.

the error is:Object refrence not set to an instance of an object.

1.PNG

2.PNG

and I will read those chapters.tnx

Hi Asal, You are welcome. In the image you have posted I see that you have not provided any connections with the NEWS sides. Those links indicate your preferences for having access to one of these sides because of lighting or other reasons. Without these links it is not possible to make a triangulation. For making these links you need to draw additional lines towards the 4 sides to indicate adjacency. Note that in the end, you need to have enough links so that the graph is at least 3-connected. That means that the graph should not be torn apart by removing 3-1=2 vertices. For technical details see: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/k-ConnectedGraph.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-vertex-connected_graph

Please note that this is a theoretical limitation, not a bug. I hope this helps. 

Hey
Good job! 

Was wondering, is there any way of baking the results of the analysis? 
Saw a related topic before, regarding the baking process. Look through the .gh components, yet didn't find anything related to the baking.  

I do see a workaround, where You just screenshot the image/part of the graph and edit it afterwards. Anyway, was just wondering if there is a way straight  bake it, instead of using the workaround. 

// 
I find this method of spatial analysis awesome, since it lets us create a solid layer of information. The analysis supports a branch of ideas and works side-by-side with the designers own intuition. 

Again, a big thanks :)