Thank you Pirouz for your answer.

well, I said removing unnecessary connections, but it can have another way of defing the connections automatically

C_Disk_PZN_Corrected.gh

The attached component puts out the disks for working with the disk graph drawings. 

Just noticed there was a small problem with the areas in the earlier version of this. I have fixed that problem in the attached. 

Hello, I had a problem with the RectangulateDual component, it appeared to have many layers. If anyone know why? Thank you.

Hello!! I downloaded Syntactic and i'm running the setup but it doesn't appear anywhere as a plug in in Grasshopper! What should i do?

Thank you!

Hi Katerina, after you finish the installation process, the installer will place a folder containing a GHA file and example Rh& GH files in your system. If you didn't notice where it put the folder, please repeat the process and make sure you place it somewhere recognizable. Once done, you can drag and drop the GHA onto your GH canvas and then start with the example files. 

Hi Bao, 

Looking at the picture it seems like one of the inputs must be a data tree. Anyhow, as I've mentioned in the example file this Rectangulate Dual is mostly an experimental placebo. If time allows I will propose an alternative method for geometric layout based on Isovist Bubbles: https://sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design

Hi Pirouz,

Hope you are doing well.

I would like to ask about pie chart component, is there a way to make it show labels or is it a bug?

Check this discussion, your pie chart will do a nice addition to chart tool set.

Hi Tim, do you mean with this C# component that I've put below? or the component from the SYNTACTIC plugin?The C# add on below doesn't have the mechanism for representing labels. You can add those using tagging components of GH. In the original component from SYNTACTIC I have put those mechanisms as well. I hoped this component would provide for more options without having the texts.

Hi Pirouz,

I meant the component from the syntactic plugin, from utilities tab. You show it in the example images and it has white text labels. Not that I use it a lot, but when I did a quick walk through of the components I noticed that it didn't show any text.

Maybe something is wrong on my side, but I thought I'd let you know anyway.

Have a nice day.

Hi Tim, it might be an issue with GH preview or an issue with my code which pertains to GH preview. Anyhow, I would suggest using the C# component I've posted below in combination with tagging components from GH for the time being. I can more quickly add such snippets if necessary instead of revising the whole package at once. 

Ok, no worries, I don't plan to use pie chart anyway, just thought I should report this.

I will use other components to analyse spacial relationships for my care center, I'd like to post some screenshots later.

Thanks for letting me know. Interesting topic (care centre). Please do post some screenshots :)

Hey Pirouz,

Finally got to use Space Syntax.

Trying to put everything together met this error:

1. Solution exception:Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Happens when I'm trying to connect restaurant, cafe, hair salon and post office with inner yard. What might cause the problem? Do you need the file?

Hi Tim, I'd say it is probably because the points and lines do not 'exactly' touch each other where you expect them to. Could you please try redrawing them accurately, preferably using the snapping options of Rhino? if the problem persisted, then my next guess would be something pertained to the error tolerance that I have hard coded in the components, that is the document tolerance set once when you initiate a file. An idea to solve this issue would be through raising the tolerance for error through Rhino command line or Rhino options. 

Hi Pirouz, thanks for the awesome plugin! I'm new to this Space Syntax thing and now Im having problem when trying to make the triangulation. First I thought it was because I used too many nodes that caused the configuration to be not planar the but then I tested it with simpler one and the problem is still the same. I think I already follow the example and also read your pdf but couldn't really find the solution. The value on the base plan is also xy instead of coordinate, maybe it is the issue but I dont know how to fix it. Following is the screenshot:

Thanks in advance! :)

Hi Arindra, thanks for your compliments! From what I see in the image I can guess that the problem is that you have not mentioned links towards the 4 sides (NEWS: North, East, West, and South). You need to provide additional links towards the sides to use the triangulation methods. 

I hope this helps. 

Hello Everyone! 

Thanks Pirouz for this amazing tool!  I would love to use it - BUT the Node-Link Graph is constantly telling an error.

>> Boolean Rhino.geometry.Line.EpsilonEquals (Rhino.Geometry.Line, Double) 

Anyone knows what is the problem? :) THANK u!! 

Hi Lea, Happy to hear you find them useful. Regarding the error, as I understand it is complaining that it cannot find the method Line.EpsilonEquals(). Based on what I've seen so far, this problem is usually solved by  updating Rhino. Could you please go to your Rhino options and check if it is up to date? 

Hey Pirouz!

Thank u so much for your quick answer! Now it is working! Was not thinking about this solution.... Thanks  a LOT!

Most welcome! Comments and complaints are also welcome :)!

Hi Chandan, Thanks for your compliments. Could you please describe what you want to get from what component exactly? I might be able to add a code snippet to help you achieve that for the time being. 

Great app Pirouz!, I seem to be having the same problem as a recent post from a couple days ago. Specifically, i dont have a clue on how to add links to the NEWS. 

Do you reference them by adding additional points?

Thanks.! 

Hi Francisco, Thanks! It appears you are missing links towards the 4 sides. Once you provide the nodes and links to the NEWS (North, East, West, South) node-link graph, a sketch-pad with four nominal sides appears. You need to provide additional links from your spaces towards these sides in order to proceed with the rest of those methods. Please check the example file as well. 

So, here's an example of what happens when I try to get it to work.

Thats the definition...

Now, the result..

Now, Where is the label that says which box represents which room. I mostly figure that out myself but that is very counterproductive. I use an application that makes me pick up the pen and paper. Suggest something.

Regards

Hey Pirouz,

How are you doing?

I keep using your plugin, start to get used to it. My professor love it, it helped me a lot. During my work with it I sometimes find bloopers and would like to drop some wishes.

For example it would be super useful to be able to bake Justified Graph to work with it later. Specifically, I think it would be useful for it to have geometry outputs. For example with other plugins I can convert colored circles (which I assume are surfaces) into hatches and safely export them into AI and work with nice fills from there (avoid filling it up myself this way).

Or you could make them to be hatches when they are baked.

Also, input for text color is essential. Since I can't bake it I have to take a screenshot but white text will just disappear on my (so happens) white presentation poster.

It is a really beautiful graph, I can see the logic or a problem clearly from it, but it can be much better, text can be centered to its bubble and resized to fit in and so on.

Hello again,

Also I think it would be nice to add a piece of code that tries to avoid intersections in Justified Graph

@  Chandan Chaturvedi 

Please follow the way it is done in the example file. There you can see how to use the attributes to keep track of the spaces in your configuration. In principle, the order of the spaces does not get disrupted when they go through the process; that is if the graph is planar and sufficient links to the sides are provided. You can do the labeling and similar tasks with native components of GH. BTW, do not expect the rectangular drawing components to do the job properly, they are only place holders. Check the example file and read the "read me" notes please. 

Hi Tim, Thanks for your suggestions and compliments. I am fine and getting closer to my defense ceremony I presume :). I have posted a C# snippet previously here for baking the balls of a bubble diagram as colored meshes. Have you tried that? I will try to find it from here and re-post it. It does not do all you have asked for, but it is something to start with. You can then perhaps adjust the texts separately using GH native components.  

Hey Pirouz,

Great to hear, please don't worry about the snippet, I'll find it myself.

What you say is that it is possible to assign names through tags to corresponding bubble and from there just tweak and bake the tag.

I found it extremely useful to work with pipeline component with your plugin. I guess you know why (although not without some trickery))). Also, it seems more efficient to name the geometry and with Human plugin retrieve these names to each bubble accordingly.

Just to be on the same page, are you talking about C_Disk_PZN_Corrected.gh?

If yes, I just checked it, maybe I haven't gotten it yet, but how does it bake justified graph (it doesn't even have any outputs, which is the problem)

Yes Tim, that is the component I meant. Indeed it cannot do the job as is because the Justified Graph Component doesn't have an output. That component has one of the biggest chunks of code... Let me see if I can rewrite it to get an output from it. 

Please do if you have time, if not with code, I could rearrange intersecting bubbles in AI if have baked geometry. Meshes are ok too, I can convert them to hatches with Human or FabTools plugins.

Also text is very important, if possible to output it as a text that would be most useful.

Hey Pirouz,

I would like to ask about the entrophy parameter that is connected with the integration. In the paper 'designing with space syntax' there's explanation about the formula that you used to get the measurement for each parameter but how about the entrophy? I'd really love to know where do the numbers come from. Thanks in advance! 

Hi Arindra, 

Hi Pirouz,

thank you so much for your quick answer! I really appreciate it. :)

hello;
firstly , thanks alot for this helpful plugin.
i'm having a problem with Triangulate component that show Error:1.Solution exception:value cannot be null. but i can't solve it.
please helpe me.

SYNTAZTIC_NewVersion_PublicRelease_0.2.7.gh

SYNTACTIC_NewVersion_sample_2.7.3dm

Hello Mehrnoosh, 

The problem with your file is that the configuration you are trying to realize as a plan layout is not planar. That means there can be no drawing of your configuration graph on a piece of paper without its edges (links) crossing each other. That is not a software issue, but a theoretical limitation. If you want to get a result from the methods, you need to remove a few links so that the graph becomes a planar graph. 

I apologise in advance for my poor English. Is it possible with space syntax to make 2D/3D visibility analysis? (I rode about the isovist bubble)

Dear Pirouz,

First, I would like to thank you for developing this tool, I find it very useful and well developed. I am currently working at UK AECOM and involved in various projects related to urban space. I believe this tool is under the following licence: Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported Li.... Thus, we cannot use it for commercial purposes. 

I wonder can we discuss on how we can use this tool for commercial purposes at AECOM?

Best regards,

Shayan 

Dear Shayan, 

 Thanks for your kind words; and apologies for responding late. Happy to hear that you find the tools useful in practice. Regrading the licensing, we have been thinking of changing the license towards a more-open one. For the time being, I can write to your email and grant permission free of charge to use the tools, on the condition that 'some' results are shown to public with attribution to the toolkit, including on this platform. You can send me an email on p.nourian@tudelft.nl

Thank you a lot, I'm waiting the 3d plug-in

can anyone please upload a working gh script with NEWS vertices and dual graph??? i couldnt link them properly..it states error evrytym

@Pranav: you can check the example files included in the installed file. Note that the NEWS graph can only work on a certain class of graphs that are called 3 connected. These graphs cannot be torn apart unless at least three links of them are cut. 

Hello, dear Pirouz
I have used SYNTATIC in an analysis of an urban area and I have  common miss measurements that the relationship between local and global integration is negative correlation and logically, it must be positive. I have attached the. GH and. 3dm files. I hope you help me to fix this error. thank you in advance

locaandglobalintegration.gh

Sample.rar

Hi Salma, I'm currently busy with my defense planned for next Friday and cannot work on the files; however, I do not see why you should expect a positive correlation between local and global integration in every situation? Where does this rule come from? In Space Syntax literature, if there is such a positive correlation people consider the configuration to be illegible. That is all I can recall about this. Could you please elaborate?

working on a new set of tools for adjacency tables. will release them one by one: