h tubes are redundant so surfaces overlap instead of interpenetrate, so it is not a good system.
Cocoon is the best answer these days unless you can get Exowire/Exoskelton to work. If you want more control over shape, feed your uncapped tubes into Cocoon as meta-surfaces and delete any and all of the inner meshes to just keep the outer single closed one, but this is just duplicate-culled lines used as meta-lines:
Turn down the CS input to 0.005 for this result, from 0.02 used for faster preview. In fact bake the lines and only test Cocoon on a few of them in order to get the result you want before doing the whole thing.
Whole thing at 0.005 cell size takes 5 minutes for Cocoon and 2 minutes for refinement to a smooth and even mesh.
Actually, seems like 0.005 is way too fine, giving a 600MB STL file.
So, 0.01 cell size at less than a minute total:
159MB STL which is still a bit too big for places like Shapeways. Wow. OK then 0.02 cell size, but I have to increase diameter or my two smoothing steps in refine collapse things too much, an in fact I set it to no smoothing, getting more volume and a reasonable 46MB STL file:
Alas, now it's more frail and overly organic rather than mechanical. Increasing diameter just merges it into perforated plates too much. File size is simply an issue with this complexity level, so different 3D printing services will have different file size limits.
Exowire/Exoskeleton would work but your original mesh hasn't been MeshMachine remeshed to be regular, so short segments ruin it. Here is just a corner:
I think that's why more wires fails, at least. Pretty temperamental component.
Switching to MeshMachine is needed, I guess, instead of Cocoon refine, to remesh away so many small triangles along the boring tubes. Crucial for good remeshing was to set Flip to 0 or I failed to get a rough enough mesh.
It's an adaptive mesh so I can retain good detail while roughing out the tubes.
MeshMachine is terribly slow for this whole thing, like 6 minutes, and blows up for this overly rough setting, 20 steps, so less rough, ugh, I'm out of time. I think free Autocad Meshmixer is the way to make a better smaller mesh, after a refined output from Cocoon. MeshMachine is just too slow to tweak and when it blows up, creating massive triangles jutting out, it hangs too when you change settings.
Starting with a Cocoon refined mesh certainly helped Meshmixer. Using triangle budget lets me have full control. Here is 150K triangles instead of 200K:
STL file size down to 40MB. I think Shapeways is 70 or 100MB limit? So it can be even finer. Here is the Cocoon output versus the Meshmixer reduction:
To use Meshmixer, turn on View > Show Wireframe, Command-S to select all and use Edit > Reduce from the palette that appears.
Cocoon can end up making a few inner meshes where things get weird in your uneven original mesh with small holes so fish out the main mesh by adding a List Item node.
The best strategy for Cocoon is indeed to make an overly fine STL so you avoid any need to tweak forever in Grasshopper, but then you can achieve a smaller mesh file size while preserving shape instead of things turning all smearly organic in Grasshopper.…
ion of both Ladybug and Honeybee. Notable among the new components are 51 new Honeybee components for setting up and running energy simulations and 15 new Ladybug components for running detailed comfort analyses. We are also happy to announce the start of comprehensive tutorial series on how to use the components and the first one on getting started with Ladybug can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLruLh1AdY-Sj_XGz3kzHUoWmpWDXNep1O
A second one on how to use the new Ladybug comfort components can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLruLh1AdY-Sho45_D4BV1HKcIz7oVmZ8v
Here is a short list highlighting some of the capabilities of this current Honeybee release:
1) Run EnergyPlus and OpenStudio Simulations - A couple of components to export your HBZones into IDF or OSM files and run energy simulations right from the grasshopper window! Also included are several components for adjusting the parameters of the simulations and requesting a wide range of possible outputs.
2) Assign EnergyPlus Constructions - A set of components that allow you to assign constructions from the OpenStudio library to your Honeybee objects. This also includes components for searching through the OpenStudio construction/material library and components to create your own constructions and materials.
3) Assign EnergyPlus Schedules and Loads - A set of components for assigning schedules and Loads from the Openstudio library to your Honeybee zones. This includes the ability to auto-assign these based on your program or to tweak individual values. You can even create your own schedules from a stream of 8760 values with the new “Create CSV Schedule” component. Lastly, there is a component for converting any E+ schedule to 8760 values, which you can then visualize with the standard Ladybug components
4) Assign HVAC Systems - A set of components for assigning some basic ASHRAE HVAC systems that can be run with the Export to OpenStudio component. You can even adjust the parameters of these systems right in Grasshopper.
Note: The ASHRAE systems are only available for OpenStudio and can’t be used with Honeybee’s EnergyPlus component. Also, only ideal air, VAV and PTHP systems are currently available but more will be on their way soon!
5) Import And Visualize EnergyPlus Results - A set of components to import numerical EnergyPlus simulation results back into grasshopper such that they can be visualized with any of the standard Ladybug components (ie. the 3D chart or Psychrometric chart). Importers are made for zone-level results as well as surface results and surfaces results can be easily separated based on surface type. This also means that E+ results can be analyzed with the new Ladybug comfort calculator components and used in shade or natural ventilation studies. Lastly, there are a set of components for coloring zone/surface geometry with EnergyPlus results and for coloring the shades around zones with shade desirability.
6) Increased Radiance and Daysim Capabilities - Several updates have also been made to the existing Radiance and Daysim components including parallel Radiance Image-based analysis.
7) Visualize HBObject Attributes - A few components have been added to assist with setting up honeybee objects and ensuing the the correct properties have been assigned. These include components to separate surfaces based on boundary condition and components to label surfaces and zones with virtually any of their EnergyPlus or Radiance attributes.
8) WIP Grizzly Bear gbxml Exporter - Lastly, the release includes an WIP version of the Grizzly Bear gbXML exporter, which will continue to be developed over the next few months.
And here’s a list of the new Ladybug capabilities:
1) Comfort Models - Three comfort models that have been translated to python for your use in GH: PMV, Adaptive, and Outdoor (UTCI). Each of these models has a “Comfort Calculator” component for which you can input parameters like temperature and wind speed to get out comfort metrics. These can be used in conjunction with EPW data or EnergyPlus results to calculate comfort for every hour of the year.
2) Ladybug Psychrometric Chart - A new interactive psychrometric chart that was made possible thanks to the releasing of the Berkely Center for the Built Environment Comfort Tool Code (https://github.com/CenterForTheBuiltEnvironment/comfort-tool). The new psychrometric chart allows you to move the comfort polygon around based on PMV comfort metrics, plot EPW or EnergyPlus results on the psych chart, and see how many hours are made comfortable in each case. The component also allows you to plot polygons representing passive building strategies (like internal heat gain or evaporative cooling), which will adjust dynamically with the comfort polygon and are based on the strategies included in Climate Consultant.
3) Solar Adjusted MRT and Outdoor Shade Evaluator - A component has been added to allow you to account for shortwave solar radiation in comfort studies by adjusting Mean Radiant Temperature. This adjusted MRT can then be factored into outdoor comfort studies and used with an new Ladybug Comfort Shade Benefit Evaluator to design outdoor shades and awnings.
4) Wind Speed - Two new components for visualizing wind profile curves and calculating wind speed at particular heights. These allow users to translate EPW wind speed from the meteorological station to the terrain type and height above ground for their site. They will also help inform the CFD simulations that will be coming in later releases.
5) Sky Color Visualizer - A component has been added that allows you to visualize a clear sky for any hour of the year in order to get a sense of the sky qualities and understand light conditions in periods before or after sunset.
Ready to Start?
Here is what you will need to do:
Download Honeybee and Ladybug from the same link here. Make sure that you remove any old version of Ladybug and Honeybee if you have one, as mentioned on the Ladybug group page.
You will also need to install RADIANCE, DAYSIM and ENERGYPLUS on your system. We already sent a video about how to get RADIANCE and Daysim installed (link). You can download EnergyPlus 8.1 for Windows from the DOE website (http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/?utm_source=EnergyPlus&utm_medium=redirect&utm_campaign=EnergyPlus%2Bredirect%2B1).
“EnergyPlus is a whole building energy simulation program that engineers, architects, and researchers use to model energy and water use in buildings.”
“OpenStudio is a cross-platform (Windows, Mac, and Linux) collection of software tools to support whole building energy modeling using EnergyPlus and advanced daylight analysis using Radiance.”
Make sure that you install ENERGYPLUS in a folder with no spaces in the file path (e.g. “C:\Program Files” has a space between “Program” and “Files”). A good option for each is C:\EnergyPlusV8-1-0, which is usually the default locations when you run the downloaded installer.
New Example Files!
We have put together a large number of new updated example files and you should use these to get yourself started. You can download them from the link on the group page.
New Developers:
Since the last release, we have had several new members join the Ladybug + Honeybee developer team:
Chien Si Harriman - Chien Si has contributed a large amount of code and new components in the OpenStudio workflow including components to add ASHRAE HVAC systems into your energy models and adjust their parameters. He is also the author of the Grizzly Bear gbxml exporter and will be continuing work on this in the following months.
Trygve Wastvedt - Trygve has contributed a core set of functions that were used to make the new Ladybug Colored Sky Visualizer and have also helped sync the Ladybug Sunpath to give sun positions for the current year of 2014
Abraham Yezioro - Abraham has contributed an awesome new bioclimatic chart for comfort analyses, which, despite its presence in the WIP tab, is nearly complete!
Djordje Spasic - Djordje has contributed a number of core functions that were used to make the new Ladybug Wind Speed Calculator and Wind Profile Visualizer components and will be assisting with workflows to process CFD results in the future. He also has some more outdoor comfort metrics in the works.
Andrew Heumann - Andrew contributed an endlessly useful list item selector, which can adjust based on the input list, and has multiple applications throughout Ladybug and Honeybee. One of the best is for selecting zone-level programs after selecting an overall building program.
Alex Jacobson - Alex also assisted with the coding of the wind speed components.
And, as always, a special thanks goes to all of our awesome users who tested the new components through their several iterations. Special thanks goes to Daniel, Michal, Francisco, and Agus for their continuous support. Thanks again for all the support, great suggestions and comments. We really cannot thank you enough.
Enjoy!,
Ladybug + Honeybee Development Team
PS: If you want to be updated about the news about Ladybug and Honeybee like Ladybug’s Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/LadyBugforGrasshopper) or follow ladybug’s twitter account (@ladybug_tool).
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inner As Curve() = section.ToNurbsCurve().Offset(normal, pc, -plate, 1e-3, 1e-4, Rhino.Geometry.CurveOffsetCornerStyle.Sharp)
the error message is:
"
{0}0. Error: Het oplossen van de overbelasting is mislukt omdat dit aantal argumenten door geen enkele toegankelijke Offset wordt geaccepteerd. (line 104)
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this is the VBA script:
"Option Strict OffOption Explicit On'Import SDK and Framework namespacesImports RhinoImports Rhino.GeometryImports Rhino.CollectionsImports GrasshopperImports Grasshopper.KernelImports Grasshopper.Kernel.DataImports Grasshopper.Kernel.TypesImports GH_IOImports GH_IO.SerializationImports SystemImports System.IOImports System.XmlImports System.DataImports System.DrawingImports System.ReflectionImports System.CollectionsImports System.Windows.FormsImports Microsoft.VisualBasicImports System.Collections.GenericImports System.Runtime.InteropServices'Code generated by Grasshopper(R) (except for RunScript() content and Additional content)'Copyright (C) 2011 - Robert McNeel & Associates<System.Runtime.CompilerServices.CompilerGenerated()> _Public Class Script_Instance Implements IGH_ScriptInstance#Region "Members" ''' <summary>List of error messages. Do not modify this list directly.</summary> Private __err As New List(Of String) ''' <summary>List of print messages. Do not modify this list directly, use the Print() and Reflect() functions instead.</summary> Private __out As New List(Of String) ''' <summary>Represents the current Rhino document.</summary> Private doc As RhinoDoc = RhinoDoc.ActiveDoc ''' <summary>Represents the Script component which maintains this script.</summary> Public owner As Grasshopper.Kernel.IGH_ActiveObject#End Region#Region "Utility functions" ''' <summary>Print a String to the [Out] Parameter of the Script component.</summary> ''' <param name="text">String to print.</param> Private Sub Print(ByVal text As String) __out.Add(text) End Sub ''' <summary>Print a formatted String to the [Out] Parameter of the Script component.</summary> ''' <param name="format">String format.</param> ''' <param name="args">Formatting parameters.</param> Private Sub Print(ByVal format As String, ByVal ParamArray args As Object()) __out.Add(String.Format(format, args)) End Sub ''' <summary>Print useful information about an object instance to the [Out] Parameter of the Script component. </summary> ''' <param name="obj">Object instance to parse.</param> Private Sub Reflect(ByVal obj As Object) __out.Add(GH_ScriptComponentUtilities.ReflectType_VB(obj)) End Sub ''' <summary>Print the signatures of all the overloads of a specific method to the [Out] Parameter of the Script component. </summary> ''' <param name="obj">Object instance to parse.</param> Private Sub Reflect(ByVal obj As Object, ByVal method_name As String) __out.Add(GH_ScriptComponentUtilities.ReflectType_VB(obj, method_name)) End Sub#End Region ''' <summary> ''' This procedure contains the user code. Input parameters are provided as ByVal arguments, ''' Output parameter are ByRef arguments. You don't have to assign output parameters, ''' they will be null by default. ''' </summary> Private Sub RunScript(ByVal p0 As Point3d, ByVal p1 As Point3d, ByVal p2 As Point3d, ByVal pc As Point3d, ByVal plate As Double, ByVal itt As Integer, ByVal dev As Double, ByRef crvout As Object, ByRef crvin As Object, ByRef sec As Object, ByRef opp As Object, ByRef div As Object, ByRef pt4 As Object) 'your code goes here… opp = "test01" Dim section As New Polyline(5) section.Add(p0) section.Add(p1) section.Add(p2) section.Add(pc) section.Add(p0) Dim normal As Vector3d = vector3d.CrossProduct((p1 - p0), (p2 - p0)) Dim area As Double Dim chicken_int As Int32 = 0 Dim XX As Double Dim YY As Double Do chicken_int += 1 If (chicken_int > itt) Then Exit Do 'Compute the section offset Dim inner As Curve() = section.ToNurbsCurve().Offset(normal, pc, -plate, 1e-3, 1e-4, Rhino.Geometry.CurveOffsetCornerStyle.Sharp) Dim edges As New CurveList(inner) edges.Add(section.ToNurbsCurve()) crvin = edges Dim sections As Brep() = Brep.CreatePlanarBreps(edges) If (sections Is Nothing) Then Exit Do opp = "test02" 'Compute the centroid of the current section Dim am As AreaMassProperties = AreaMassProperties.Compute(sections(0)) Dim ct As Point3d = am.Centroid XX = am.CentroidCoordinatesMomentsOfInertia.X YY = am.CentroidCoordinatesMomentsOfInertia.Y area = am.Area Dim dx As Vector3d = pc - ct 'Compute the error of the current centroid Dim dl As Double = dx.Length div = dl 'Update output values crvout = section crvin = inner sec = sections(0) opp = area If (dl < dev) Then Exit Do 'Adjust outline with a boosting factor. section(3) += dx * 4 Loop pt4 = section(3) crvout = section End Sub '<Custom additional code> '</Custom additional code> End Class
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o it would cause troubles with unfolding and fabricating... that's why I used Extrude point component- it will give you similar result, but all surfaces are planar.. you can control extrusion direction with a tip point in rhino...
2)I changed tagging so every tube has 8 points form list A and 8 points from list B... first number of tag is a number of point within one tube... last number of the tag is order of tubes (I draw a little picture in GH, hope you'll understand)...I think original way of tagging wasn't really usefull.. but you can change tagging by yourself...
3) the definition is really messy, sorry about that, but it's just quite complicated task...
4)if you find some incorrect order of tagging, use the slider that controls Shift List component ... it will shift tagging..
5) if you won't be using this definition or find some better way, pleeeease don't tell me - I'll jump out the window :D ... it took me whole day to make it work :D
6)I can't guarantee you anything- I hope it works, but if not - at least I tried... so check everything (especially order of tags and points) twice before you fabricate it.. or print few tubes and make them paper first..
7)there is a part of original definition, that is not useful anymore.. I left it there, but you can delete it (I called it "UNUSED PARTS OF ORIGINAL FILE")
..good luck
Dimitri…
or create a form through code.
2) Add a public function to your component that displays this form, I recommend you use form.ShowDialog() for now to avoid weird conditions with non-modal forms.
3) Override the method Menu_AppendCustomComponentItems() on your Component and add an extra menu item that will show the form (i.e. when clicked, it will call the function defined in step [2].
4) Create a new class and derive it from Grasshopper.Kernel.Attributes.GH_ComponentAttributes. (if you don't want to offer double-click functionality, you can skip steps 4 to 6)
5) Override the RespondToMouseDoubleClick() method on the new attributes and also call the function defined in step [2]
6) Override the CreateAttributes() method on your Component class and construct an instance of the custom attributes defined in step [4] instead.
7) Once you've shown the form and the user has clicked OK, you need to assign values and invalidate the Component, then start a new Solution.
Here's some code:
Public Class MySpecialComponentAttributes
Inherits GH_ComponentAttributes
Public Sub New(ByVal comp As MySpecialComponent)
MyBase.New(comp)
End Sub
Public Overrides Function RespondToMouseDoubleClick( _
ByVal sender As GH_Canvas, _
ByVal e As GH_CanvasMouseEvent) As GH_ObjectResponse
DirectCast(Me.Owner, MySpecialComponent).DisplayForm()
Return Canvas.GH_ObjectResponse.Handled
End Function
End Class
Public Class MySpecialComponent
Inherits GH_Component
.....
.....
Protected Overrides Sub Menu_AppendCustomComponentItems( _
ByVal iMenu As ToolStripDropDown)
Menu_AppendGenericMenuItem(iMenu, "Set Values", AddressOf Menu_SetValues)
End Sub
Private Sub Menu_SetValues(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As EventArgs)
DisplayForm()
End Sub
Public Sub DisplayForm()
Dim frm As New MySpecialForm()
Grasshopper.GUI.GH_WindowsFormUtil.CenterFormOnCursor(frm, True)
If (frm.ShowDialog() = DialogResult.OK) Then
'Harvest values from form and assign them to local variables
Me.ExpireSolution(True)
End If
End Sub
End Class
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David Rutten
david@mcneel.com
Turku, Finland…
ctor. I do not dispose of any IGH_Goo instances, mostly because I have no idea when an instance is truly no longer needed. If any of your fields need to be disposed, you may have to implement a destructor, but I have no experience with this.
2) should I pass those classes to other parameters by DA(0, MotherClass.Duplicate?) or it is already there by GH_Goo ?
IGH_Goo is not duplicated by default. If you use DA.GetData() and ask for IGH_Goo types, you'll get a reference to the same instance as exists. Thus, if you take in an instance of your type, modify and output it, you should duplicate it yourself. But you only need to do this if you change the state of an instance.
MyGooType data = null;
if (!DA.GetData(0, ref data)) return;
data = data.Duplicate() as MyGooType;
data.Property = newValue;
DA.SetData(0, data);
3) should I create ChildClass and MotherClass in SolveInstance, or create it once as a component's field and then change theirs properties and pass it to DA (as duplicate ?)....
It's almost always better to use variables with the lowest possible scope. So method variables are preferred to class variables, class variables are preferred to static variables.
4) if I create those classes in SolveInstance, is it necessary to Dispose them there ?
NO! Do not dispose of instances that are passed on to output parameters. Disposing objects typically makes them invalid, so if you share instances with anyone else, you should not dispose them or the other code may well crash. However I don't think your types need to be disposable so this is a moot point now.
In general, if you're dealing with disposable types, and the instances aren't shared, then you dispose them as quickly as possible. But if they are shared it's a lot more complicated.
5) finally - maybe it would be better if MotherClass inherits the ChildClass ?
Maybe. Not necessarily. Depends on the classes. …
Added by David Rutten at 12:08pm on December 31, 2014
On the other hand ... well ... we can pretend that this could be some sort of add-on dedicated for broken pieces, (and nerves if loops = a big number) he he.
Anyway:
1. If you enable the history (the yellow things) you can watch the recursion working: get a donor box and "slice" it in 2 (either via an "orthogonal" plane [the fast boxes] or a random one [the slow breps]). Then get each one and repeat until the desired "depth" of "slices" is achieved (the loops, that is). Pure recursion in terms of programming (a function does something, yields results and then calls itself to further process each result).
Double click on the C# to see the code (but don't change anything). For the record this is the function that does the main job (spot the fact that if it's not terminated it calls itself [last line]):
2. The x, xy, xyz options restrict the random plane (actually in the boxes case there's another technique used (Intervals) but never mind). For instance (case random breps) the slicing plane is defined at the brep center and using a random direction:
Vector3d dir = new Vector3d(rand.NextDouble(-1,1), rand.NextDouble(-1,1), rand.NextDouble(-1,1));
If the 3rd value is 0 then the plane's YAxis is parallel to Plane.WorldXY.ZAxis.
3. Now if the "slicing" thing was a random polyline at a random plane the pieces could be far more "elaborated" (and/or "naturally looking") ... but the thing with programming is to know(?) where/when to stop.
4. This approach could use any donor Brep (a blob for instance) or a Brep List. Notify if you want to add such an option.
5. Added some lines more for an option that allows to sample the pieces (due to the last loop) in an automated flat "layout" (it's a bit more complex than it appears on first sight).
6. The x,y restriction mode now affects the random slices as well. See what I mean:
and the same restriction using boxes:
Truth is that all that freaky stuff could be helpful for you if you had serious plans to learn C# (not something achievable without pain and tears aplenty).
best…
e point in each pair that has the lowest Z value (then later the highest Z)... The problem is the intersections are not returned sorted by Z, sometimes the lower point is first in the list, sometimes last. So I need to sort those pairs of points by Z value.I noticed the sort points component does not have any inputs for sort criteria... RhinoScript SortPoints allows you to sort by:
blnOrder
Optional. Number. The component sort order, where:
Value
Component Sort Order
0 (default)
X, Y, Z
1
X, Z, Y
2
Y, X, Z
3
Y, Z, X
4
Z, X, Y
5
Z, Y, X
Will we get something like this in GH? For now I think I can manage to analyze the Z for each and re-order the points, but a more comprehensive point sorting tool might be nice... no? Or did I miss something obvious? --Thx, --Mitch…
n due at the end of march. i am hoping to see if i can do this as a sort of "HIVE MIND" experiment with one or two or more posters to the forum. i have uploaded two files to http://www.formpig.com/nine_bar-FAR and I have the following goals:
1. To "kinematically iterate" various formal building envelopes based upon a 50' x 100' lot that "conform" to the nine bar linkage geometry.
2. This lot would have "setbacks" consisting of two 5' side setbacks, a 10' rear yard setback and a 25' front yard setback. max height on the structure is 32' and the allowable overhangs into the setbacks are 2'. I would like to find a way to use the "nine bar geometry" to construct a series of iterations for "floors", "walls" and "ceilings", which would then be tied to a volumetric (cubic volume), or a total square footage (perhaps based upon two horizontal section cuts) which was based upon a given number that I will provide per local building code.
3. Laid on top of this we would also have "mcmansion ordinance" requirements based upon the pdf enclosed. i expect to have this "tent restriction" data in digital form to upload to ftp shortly.
It would be up to you individually or collectively to determine how best to position this "in the real world" based upon the lot, setbacks, zoning requirements etc. For instance, perhaps the nine bar configuration has its vertices coplanar with the 50' x 100' x 32' envelope restrictions and then the chosen volume is "trimmed' by the setback requirements. Or perhaps the nine-bar configuration is generated completely within the setbacks, or perhaps it is generated 2' outside of the setbacks so as to take advantage of the 2' overhang allowance on the setbacks, etc.
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Given an opportunity to develop the work in a second phase we would have an opportunity to tie this into various efficiencies such as Bill of Materials (wall floor and ceiling square foot calculations), envelope to volume calculations, solar panel efficiencies (solar orientation and envelope geometry) etc, etc (love to get suggestions for this).
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I've become /really/ convinced that this would be a /really/ interesting entry based upon my just finishing up Kas Oosterhuis' Towards a New Kind of Building: A Designer's Guide for Non-Standard Architecture". In an ideal world I was hoping that it would be possible to hash this out discussion-wise and then literally passing it around on the list after someone eventually made the first move by tossing out a rough ghx script. My expectation would be to finalize it rapidly in the next two weeks. Something of a contemporary version of a design charette.
However, I realize this may not be workable so if you have experience in this arena and particularly if you think this is a brief that is straighforward enough to be almost literally implemented in Grasshopper, please contact me for any wage and/or contract fee requirements.
I'm getting a bit of a late jump on this but my hope is that with the right participant(s) that I can thrash it together quick enough for the first round.
info@formpig.com…