you post a screenshot of what the message coming from its readMe! output looks like?2) Close your Grasshopper and Rhino.3) Download "Revo Uninstaller Pro" from here. It is free for first 30 days, which is what we need.4) Right click on the RevoUninProSetup.exe and check if the file is blocked. If it is, unblock it.5) Run the RevoUninProSetup.exe file and install "Revo Uninstaller Pro".6) Uninstall "MapWinGIS" with "Revo Uninstaller Pro". It is important that "Revo Uninstaller Pro" deletes not only files from MapWinGIS installation folder, but also all other leftovers (as registry inputs). Here is a small tutorial on how to do that. Watch it from 6:10 till the end.7) Restart your PC8) When your Windows boots up, make sure that you are logged in as Administrator!9) In your Start menu's search box type: "UAC", which will find your User Account Control Settings. Click on it, and a new window will open. Set the bar on the left to "Never notify".10) Turn off your Windows Firewall.11) Then turn off your custom Firewall (in case you have another one, besides standard Windows Firewall).12) Completely turn off your Antivirus.13) Download again the MapWinGIS-only-v4.9.4.2-x64.exe.exe file from here.14) Right click on the MapWinGIS-only-v4.9.4.2-x64.exe file and see if it is blocked. If it is, unblock it.15) Right click on MapWinGIS-only-v4.9.4.2-x64.exe file and choose: "Run as"... Administrator.16) One the installation preparation steps start, choose "Full installation". Wait for the MapWinGIS installation to finish.17) Right-click on "Rhino 5" icon and then choose: "Run as administrator".18) Open the the ironpython_admin.gh file again, and again post a screenshot of the message coming from its readMe! output.19) Drop the "Gismo Gismo" component to Grasshopper canvas. Post a screenshot of the message coming out from its readMe! output.
So we will need in total three screenshots of the readMe! output messages.
Thank you once again for being patient, and sorry for the large number of steps.…
Added by djordje to Gismo at 1:52am on April 9, 2017
The PC actually stops working because after a few seconds the simulation starts the fan inside the PC all of a sudden stops and for the next 5-10 mins I cannot do anything, even alt+ctrl+canc. After I wait for that time i get the followig error:
the ReadMe says:
{0;0;0}0. Grid-based Radiance simulation1. The component is checking ad, as, ar and aa values. This is just to make sure that the results are accurate enough.2. -ar is set to 300.3. Good to go!4. Current working directory is set to: C:\Users\Luigi\Desktop\Prova__\Prova_1\gridBasedSimulation\5. Found a trans material... Resetting st parameter from 0.85 to 0.011276004966. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline7. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline8. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline9. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline10. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline11. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline12. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline13. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline14. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline15. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline16. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline17. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline18. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline19. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline20. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline21. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline22. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline23. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline24. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline25. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline26. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline27. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline28. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline29. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline30. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline31. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline32. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline33. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline34. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline35. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline36. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline37. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline38. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline39. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline40. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline41. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline42. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline43. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline44. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline45. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline46. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline47. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline48. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline49. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline50. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline51. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline52. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline53. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline54. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline55. WMIC PROCESS get Commandline56. 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The thing is that if I raise the -aa parameter from 0.05 to 0.1 all works fine..
Is this only related to my PC then?? What should I do to solve this issue?
Thanks again for your help
Luigi…
. From the Thermal Comfort Indices component, Comfort Index 11 (TCI-11):MRT = f(Ta, Tground, Rprim, e)
with:- Ta = DryBulbTemperature coming from ImportEPW component- Tground = f(Ta, N) where N comes from totalSkyCover input. Tground influences the long-wave radiation emitted by the ground in the MRT calculation.- Rprim defined as solar radiation absorbed by nude man = f(Kglob, hS1, ac)- ac is the clothingAlbedo in % (bodyCharacteristics input)- I can't find any definition in the code of Kglob and hS1. Could you tell me please what are those values referencered to? --> probably the globalHorizontalRadiation but how?- e = vapour pressure calculated from Ta and Relative Humidity input
Do you agree that in this case the MRT does not depend on these inputs: location, meanRadiantTemperature, dewPointTemperature and wind speed?It does not depend neither on the other bodyCharacteristics like bodyPosture, age, sex, met, activityDuration...?
MRT calculated by the TCI-11 method is the mean radiant temperature of a vector pointing vertically with a sky view factor of 100%?For ParisOrly epw,
2. From the SolarAdjustedTemperature component (that seems to be more used for the UTCI calculation examples on Hydra compared to TCI-11).
In contrast to the TCI-11, this component distinguishes diffuse and direct radiation and contextualizes the calculation thanks to _ContextShading input, right? It can also be applied to a mannequin thanks to the CumSkyMatrix and thus evaluate the dishomogeneity of radiation exposure.This component seems not to consider the influence of vapour pressure on the result --> is it then more precise to put the MRT output (from the TCI) as an input of meanRadTemperature for SolarAdjustedTemperature?The default groundReflectivity is set to 0.25 --> is GroundReflectivity taken into account in the Tground or MRT calculation in the TCI component? If yes, what is the hypothesised groundReflectivity?The default clothing albedo of 37% (TCI-11 bodyCharacteristics) corresponds to Clothing Absorptivity of 63%?
If the CumSkyMatrix input is not supplied, I get 9 results for the mannequin --> where are those points/results coming from?
If the CumSkyMatrix input is supplied,I suppose the calculation of the 482 results correspond to a calculation method similar to the radiation analysis component that is averaged over the analysis period. Right?But I don't understand why the mannequin is composed of 481 faces and meshFaceResult gives 482 results.
Finally, what is the link between the MESH results, the solarAdjustedMRT and the Effective Radiant field ? Is there a paper to have a detailed explanation of the method?
3. Here are some results for the ParisOrly energyplus weather data. You can find here attached the grasshopper definition.There is no shading in this simulation and the result coming from the ThermalComfort indices for MRT is very different compared to the solar adjusted MRT.Why such a big difference and which of the result should be plugged into the UTCI calculation component?
Results for ParisOrly.epwM,D,H:1,1,12
Ta : 6.5°Crh: 100%globalHorizontalRadiation: 54 Wh/m2totalSkyCover: 10MRT (TCI-11): 1.2°C
_CumSkyMtxOrDirNormRad = directNormalRadiation : 0 Wh/m2diffuseHorizontalRad: 54 Wh/m2_meanRadTemp = TasolarAdjustedMRT: 10.64°CMRTDelta: 4.14°C
_CumSkyMtxOrDirNormRad = CumulativeSkyMtxdiffuseHorizontalRad: 54 Wh/m2_meanRadTemp = TasolarAdjustedMRT: 10.47°CMRTDelta: 3.97°C
_CumSkyMtxOrDirNormRad = CumulativeSkyMtxdiffuseHorizontalRad: 54 Wh/m2_meanRadTemp = MRT (TCI-11)solarAdjustedMRT: 5.17°CMRTDelta: 3.97°C
Thanks a lot for your helpRegards,
Aymeric
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EP output variables are to calculate outdoorAirEnergy?
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he resulting STL file has no problems. I was going to make a 3D print of it but I thought I could make it even more interesting.
When I make a duplicate piece of geometry with reversed curve rotation values and combine the 2 together I get this interesting result:
However, after baking this geometry the exported STL file has a huge number of errors - there are literally thousands of flipped normals, multiple mesh parts, and disconnected triangles.
I have tried lots of things to resolve this and none of them worked: converting to meshes in GH, GH mesh smooth, Rhino Solid Union, Mesh Repair, Align Normals, etc. I use 3D Builder to correct STL problems, but it can't fix this one.
An even more interesting shape happens when I twist the above shape in one direction, and then add it to another that is twisted in the opposite direction:
Of course the STL file for this one is even worse because it just compounds the previous problems.
Is there any way to resolve these problems? My GH file is somewhat messy and perhaps a bit obscure, but I'd be happy to clean it up and share it with anyone who thinks there is a way to get this puppy working.
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