I want to use standard components I have to use 2 or 3 to get the result or use a scripting component, but sometimes I fell this could be avoided if we could access geometry properties and methods directly, let's say we want to use the x coordinates of a bunch of points, instead of decomposing the points to get the X input we could directly type X in the expression editor input to do so similarly to what happens with math formulas.
mmmm, I suppose that methods will be a bit trickier if more inputs where necessary.
On the other hand GH is very easy to start doing things with because the interface allows all levels of knowledge as shown on this forum where most of the questions, I'd say, have to do with solving specific geometry problems or asking for people experiences in similar problems and not always, how do I use a component if you know what I mean.
Overall I'm so, so happy GH is out there in the hands of creative people and in the hands of creative developers! Perhaps there is no need for GH to do any task because it certainly does quite a lot and it is so versatile, even better, that the requests of users get implemented as far as possible.
I think it's very difficult to compare two programs unless you are at the same level of proficiency on both, in the future I'm going to pay more attention as to if there would be a simpler way to do things in GH and if it required some implementation.
My two pence, 8)
Evert…
Added by Evert Amador at 4:03am on February 23, 2011
simple, there are many symetries in 3 main planes. So I used arcs rotated 45° from the main planes and I generate a pentagon which was mirrored and rotated many times.
At the end there are 24 pentagons and 8 hexagons so 32 faces, 54 points/vertex and 84 edges.
It could generate some others tessalation styles
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aph relaxation in 3D and more). There is much more already in our GitHub repos and more to be added. For getting an idea of our future direction check this lecture out. For getting a better understanding of graphs and graph theory watch this lecture and this lecture on a gamified spatial configuration process. Stay tuned for more and do not hesitate to post Python questions in the meantime.
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HiIf you are encountering a problem with rhino 6 versions don't worryFollow these steps.1. Download SYNTACTIC from https://sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design2. Install it and go to the installation folder, Drag & drop SYNTACTIC(green one) over your grasshopper canvas.3. Close your rhino and reopen it. 4. Type GrasshopperDeveloperSettings5. Tick the Memory load *.GHA assemblies using COFF byte arrays option6. Run grasshopper and enjoy plugin
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2. Modelo now supports VR! check out this video:
3. We've added a specular option in the rendering settings. So now you can have your design rendered a little bit shinny-er.
4. There is also a "filters" option in this panel, with which you can get some interesting image post processing effects. We are expanding this filter library, if you have any suggestions, please let us know.
5. This one is very important and has been requested by our customers for a long time. Now when you upload a model, you can grab the reviews(3d comments, screenshots,sketches) from your previously uploaded model! This works really conveniently if you use Modelo for your design review/presentation, cause you don't have to recreate the same 3d anchor views every time you made some changes to your design.
6. Also, our developer API is almost ready, which means if anyone is interested in developing a grasshopper plugin that works with Modelo, they can!
There are some many other updates and bug fixes happened. I don't want to list all of them here. Definitely stay subscribed with our newsletter. Modelo is thrived to grow into a more comprehensive platform! If you have any good ideas about our platform, please do not hesitate to let me know!
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Added by Suqi to Modelo at 1:24pm on October 18, 2016
Rhino5 SR9. PT will not load unless you update.2- Download the PT installer (PanelingTools_2014_08_24_00.rhi) from: http://www.rhino3d.com/download/rhino/5.0/PanelingToolsV5/2- Double click the downloaded rhi file and follow the prompts to install.3- Next time you open Rhino and grasshopper, you should see the new version installed and loaded.4- The updated toolbars should be also installed. You might need to load using "ToolbarLayout" Rhino command.Documentation:There are comprehensive manuals available. Please make use of them.1- PT-Rhino: http://wiki.mcneel.com/_media/labs/panelingtools.pdf2- PT-GH: http://
wiki.mcneel.com/_media/labs/panelingtools4grasshopperprimer.pdf
New in this Release:--------------------
PT-Rhino:
1- All 2D and 3D Paneling commands, now pay attention to the attributes of the source module. Morphed geometry is no longer added to a new layer and is placed in the same layer as that of the source module(s).2- ptPanel3DCustomVariable with mean option: added support to use multiple start/end modules.3- ptPanel3DCustomVariable command with mean option: added support to use points as part of pattern.
4- Fixed history bugs to custom2d and custom3d variable commands.5- ptOffsetBorder: added bitmap and draft angle options.6- Added history support to ptGridSurface* commands.7- ptPlanarLips command is discontinued and is now replaced with the new ptTabs. The new command has "Distance" and "Recess" options to create tabs with a miter. It works with planar surfaces and polysurfaces.8- ptUnrollFaces: Many improvements and new options.9- Many other minor bug and crash fixes.PT-GH:1- Added anew component to morph variable 3D components using mean or tween method between matching curves, meshes or surfaces.2- Added the new ptOffsetGrid component of a grid.3- Updated the ptMorph2dVariable component to accept a tree structure.4- Fixed a few miscellaneous UI bugs and crashes.Feedback:As always, feedback is ve
ry much appreciated. Please post questions and reports to the following:1- Rhino discourse forum (http://discourse.mcneel.com/)2- PT forums (PT-Rhino: http://v5.rhino3d.com/group/panelingtools) and (PT-GH: http://www.grasshopper3d.com/group/panelingtools).3- Email tech (tech@mcneel.com) or reach me directly (rajaa@mcneel.com).Enjoy!Rajaa IssaRobert McNeel & Associates…
his comes in the form of an HTML page with links to every component, so you will need to view it in your web browser. (I use Chrome and it doesn't seem to be working correctly, but when opened in IE its fine.)
2) Included in each help topic for each component is the Inputs and Outputs descriptions and data types.
3) You supply the data. What you supply and how you supply it is for you to decide. There are umpteen different ways. Are you asking for a list of those ways for each input?
4) Points can either be Rhino objects or 3D co-ordinates. To create a point you can use any of these methods, but it mostly comes down to user preference. I like using Panels as this displays outside of the component.
5) Because of the nature of vectors they represent magnitude and direction but they don't have an independent location, so there is a component that will display vectors in Rhino.
6) The user.
7) There is a Primer on the front page. Here you find the Basics, but because GH is ever evolving in its current beta state you might find things that aren't relevant any more or simply don't work the same. And here is the reason why nobody is writing an update because it could be soon out of date.
8) Importing images by either dragging them from explorer onto the canvas or right click context menu Image...
9) Single line = Single Item of Data. Double line = Multiple items of data on the same Branch. Dashed Double Line = Multiple Data on Multiple Branches.
10) User preference
11) Toolbar management is probably the bane of David's life. Most things are logically placed. For example the Curve Tab, Primitives are any simple curve types that you are creating from scratch. Similarly Splines is for more complex curve types created from scratch. Analysis is where you find components that are finding answers supplied by curves, control points, curvature, parameters, end points etc. Division is a subset of this category but has a group of its own. And Utilities is where you find curve related actions that you want to perform, offsetting, rebuilding projecting, exploding etc.
12) I would image it would have been the Point On Curve component in Curve>Analysis. Why that group? You are not putting a point on a curve you are analysing a curve for the location of a point based on some parameters that you are supplying. For example "what is the mid point?"
I hope this goes some way towards answering you questions. No doubt this will have generated more so don't be afraid to ask, it took me several releases of Explicit History (aka Grasshopper) before I realised what the egg did, it never occurred to me that I could put my objects into Rhino when I was finished. Or the fact that I could use panels to 'see' data outputs.
Al the best,
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Added by Danny Boyes at 3:48am on December 9, 2010
should follow the instruction which mostapha has wrote in https://github.com/mostaphaRoudsari/ladybug/blob/master/resources/I...
Instructions for Installing Ladybug + Honeybee: (Follow steps 1-6 for basic functionality and 1-11 for full functionality) 0. If you have an old version of LB+HB, download the file here (https://app.box.com/s/ds96em9l6stxpcw8kgtf) and open it in Grasshopper to remove your old Ladybug and Honeybee version. 1. Make sure that you have a working copy of both Rhino and Grasshopper installed. 2. Open Rhino and type "Grasshopper" into the command line (without quotations). Wait for grasshopper to load. 3. Install GHPython by downloading the file at this link (http://www.food4rhino.com/project/ghpython?ufh) and drag the .gha file onto the Grasshopper canvas. 4. Select and drag all of the files in the "userObjects" folder (downloaded with this instructions file) onto your Grasshopper canvas. You should see Ladybug and Honeybee appear as tabs on the grasshopper tool bar. (If you are reading this instruction on github you can download them from http://www.food4rhino.com/project/ladybug-honeybee) 5. Download the files at this link (https://app.box.com/s/bh9sbpgajdtmmystv3n4), unzip them and copy the contents to both C:\ladybug and C:\Users\[yourUsername]\AppData\Roaming\Ladybug. 6. Restart Rhino and Grasshopper. You now have a fully-functioning Ladybug. For Honeybee, continue to the following: 7. Install Radiance to C:\Radiance by downloading it from this link (https://github.com/NREL/Radiance/releases/download/4.2.2/radiance-4...) and running the exe. 6. Install Daysim to C:\DAYSIM by downloading it at this link (http://daysim.ning.com/page/download) and running the exe. 8. Install Energy Plus 8.1 to C:\EnergyPlusV8-1-0 by going to the DOE website (http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/energyplus_downlo...), making an account, going to "download older versions of EnergyPlus, selecting 8.1 and running the exe. 9. Copy falsecolor2.exe (http://pyrat.googlecode.com/files/falsecolor2.exe) and evalglare.exe (http://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/downloads-englisch/software/evalgla...) to C:\Radiance\bin 10. Download the OpenStudio Libraries (https://app.box.com/s/y2sx16k98g1lfd3r47zi) and unzip them to C:\ladybug\OpenStudio. 11. You now have a fully-working version of Ladybug + Honeybee. Get started visualizing weather data with these video tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLruLh1AdY-Sj_XGz3kzHUoWmpWDX...).
It works for me..
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h is attached below. it`s an arch, let`s say out of bricks with loads, represented with point loads which are taken from user-defined surfaces (to represent self-wight e.g).
goal of the study is to find a supporting arch which is inside the arch then (provided the strength of the bricks is high enough) the arch is ok -otherwise one have to change the geometry of the arch (make it thicker, or change the rise of the crown).
therefore i used kangaroo in combination with galapagos to find a catenary which fulfill the boundary conditions. it works very well. so the solution galapagos found is very satisfying.
it`s simple to prove the resulting forces in the arch if one knows the rise of the arch.
according to the formula N~ q*l^2/(8*f)
with q= 21 kn/m, l= 10.00 m and f= 0.965
one get N= 272 kn, which is very near on the solution which kangaroo founds in the middle of the arch (271 kn). due to the point loads this force have to get slightly higher the nearer one comes to the anchor points. this works perfect too.
but there is one irritating thing.
at the end of the catenary, near the anchor points, kangaroo gets two very different arch-forces. 281 kn in the next to last part. and 581 kn in the very last part. this is not possible and i am sure that the value of 581 kn is wrong. i calculated the example with a commercial fea-program too. it validates the kangaroo results except the first and the last one.
i think there is a problem with the calculated end length of the first (and last) element. they are twice too long as they have to be. or do i something wrong?
thank you for any reply and again for your work.
best peter
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Added by pb to Kangaroo at 10:25am on October 22, 2011
ion y fabricación en un mismo proceso.
Para este taller se han seleccionado un conjunto de técnicas y estrategias para resolver problemas que hoy se presentan en el diseño y fabricación digital de formas complejas y euclidianas.
Bajo dos entornos de trabajo, entre técnicas interactivas y soluciones algorítmicas, se examinan conceptos y casos de estudio que le permitirán al participante decidir como y en que momento estas tecnologías pueden ser utilizadas como aliadas en los procesos de diseño y fabricación. Tomando como plataforma básica Rhino, se explora y optimiza el diseño y fabricación de topologías complejas bajo los entornos de Grasshopper, RhinoNest y RhinoCam.
En el mes de Febrero de 2010 (23 al 26 de febrero) se realizará el Workshop D.O.F Diseño-Optimizacion-Fabricacion en McNeel Argentina,
Está abierto para todas las personas y al participar obtendrás una licencia de Rhino 4.0.
Para hacer el workshop se requiere un conocimiento basico de Rhino 3.0 o 4.0
Contenidos:
1. Modelado Avanzado y sus Tecnicas. Aplanado y Desarrollo de Superficies.Anidado y distribución Nesting.
2. Introducción al Diseño Paramétrico.Definiciones Avanzadas de Grasshopper,posibilidades y limitaciones. Ajustes de escala para impresión y corte.
3. Introducción a la Manufactura en CNC - RhinoCAM 2.0. Visita al laboratorio CAM.
4. Guía Paso a Paso para la realización de un Renderizado usando Brazil 2.0. Presentación DIGITAL de proyectos.
El workshop tiene una duracion de 32 hrs. (4 dias x 8 horas por dia, horario 9 a 13 hrs y 15 a 19hrs)
Docentes
Andres Gonzalez Posada - McNeel Miami. - Grasshopper - RhinoCAM - RhinoNest
Facundo Miri - McNeel Argentina - Brazil for Rhino.
Se dictara en McNeel Argentina
Ciudad de la paz 2719 3A. - Belgrano - Capital Federal.
Costo del Curso
U$S250+IVA Curso D-O-F SIN entrega de licencia de Rhino 4
U$S350+IVA Curso D-O-F con entrega de licencia de RHino 4 Educativa (solo para docentes y estudiantes).- Precio de la licencia sola U$S195
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Contactos:
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Las personas interesadas pueden llamar al 4547-3458 o enviar mail a facundo@mcneel.com
Quienes esten fuera de la ciudad podran hacer un deposito bancario (solicitar datos de la cuenta por mail) y enviar por mail el comprobante de deposito con siguientes datos:
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Muchas Gracias
You can find the prices at: http://www.rhino3d.com/sales/order-la.htm just click on the "Commercial" o "Student" tab.…
Added by Facundo Miri at 1:10pm on December 10, 2009
ns about them.
It's a direction for Kangaroo I very much intend to continue developing - and I am still getting to grips with the possibilities and experimenting with how different optimization and fairing forces work in combination with one another, so I would value your input and experience.
For those interested in some background reading material -
[1] http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~mmeyer/Research/FairMesh/implicitFairing.pdf
[2] http://mesh.brown.edu/taubin/pdfs/taubin-eg00star.pdf
[3] http://www.pmp-book.org/download/slides/Smoothing.pdf
[4] http://graphics.stanford.edu/courses/cs468-05-fall/slides/daniel_willmore_flow_fall_05.pdf
[5] http://www.evolute.at/technology/scientific-publications.html
[6] http://www.math.tu-berlin.de/~bobenko/recentpapers.html
[7] http://spacesymmetrystructure.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/pseudo-physical-materials/
[8] http://www.evolute.at/technology/scientific-publications/34.html
[9] http://www.evolute.at/software/forum/topic.html?id=18
At the moment the Laplacian smoothing is uniformly weighted, which tends to even out the edge lengths as well as smoothing the form, which is sometimes desirable, and sometimes not. It also tends to significantly shrink meshes when the edges are not fixed.
I plan to try some of the other weighting possibilities, such as Fujiwara or cotangent weighting (see [1] and [3]), as well as other fairing approaches, such as Taubin smoothing [2], Willmore flow[4], and so on. This also has applications in the simulation of bending of thin shells.
Planar quad panels are often desirable, but I'm finding that planarization forces alone are sometimes unstable, or cause undesirable crumpling, so need to be combined with some sort of fairing/smoothing, but the different types have quite different effects, and the balance is sometimes tricky.
There's also the whole issue of meshes which are circular (I posted a demo of circularization on the examples page), or conical (this one still isn't working quite right yet), and their relationship with principal curvature grids and placement of irregular vertices, all of which is rather different when the whole form is up for change, rather than having a fixed target surface [7].
I'm also trying to get to grips with ways of making surfaces of planar hexagons, which need to become concave in regions of negative Gaussian curvature (see this discussion)
and I hope to release soon a component for calculating CP meshes, as described in [8], which I think could have many exciting construction implications.
While there are a number of well developed smoothing algorithms, their main area of application so far seems to be in processing and improving 3D scan data, so using them in design in this way is somewhat new territory. There can be structural, fabrication or performance reasons for certain types of smoothness, but of course the aesthetic reasons are also often important, and I think there are some interesting discussions to be had here about the aesthetics of smoothness.
Anyway, that's enough rambling from me, hopefully something there triggers some discussion - I'm really keen to hear about how all of you envision these tools might be used and developed.
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