patenting geometry - Grasshopper2024-03-28T15:20:44Zhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topics/patenting-geometry?commentId=2985220%3AComment%3A412919&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSorry to dig this up again bu…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2012-03-02:2985220:Comment:5483112012-03-02T09:57:24.763ZDanny Boyeshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/DannyBoyes
<p>Sorry to dig this up again but I came across I nice <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/video/firefly-racing-dinghy/query/dinghy+sailing" target="_blank">video</a> of Firefly Dinghy building in the Hamble UK from yesteryear that I thought would be good to share And this seemed an appropriate place :)</p>
<p>Sorry to dig this up again but I came across I nice <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/video/firefly-racing-dinghy/query/dinghy+sailing" target="_blank">video</a> of Firefly Dinghy building in the Hamble UK from yesteryear that I thought would be good to share And this seemed an appropriate place :)</p> Wait a second...!?
tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-23:2985220:Comment:4360162011-09-23T09:01:59.296ZArthur Mamou-Manihttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/arthurmamoumani
<p>Wait a second...!?</p>
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<p>Wait a second...!?</p>
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<p><a target="_self" href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2768677480?profile=original"><img class="align-full" width="700" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2768677480?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"/></a></p> Hi guys,maybe we should think…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-23:2985220:Comment:4357982011-09-23T08:23:49.261ZJerrimohttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/Jerrimo
Hi guys,<br></br><br></br>maybe we should think about to set up an online petition, were offices and individuals can publicly singn up against this patent to rais awarness of this dangerous issue in architecture and the bad impact to our society. Such patents block innovation and weaken the power of the community. We also should raise the question how people doing such important research especially in the open source/access community are able to get enough money for there life and work.<br></br><br></br>Lets…
Hi guys,<br/><br/>maybe we should think about to set up an online petition, were offices and individuals can publicly singn up against this patent to rais awarness of this dangerous issue in architecture and the bad impact to our society. Such patents block innovation and weaken the power of the community. We also should raise the question how people doing such important research especially in the open source/access community are able to get enough money for there life and work.<br/><br/>Lets find some ways how to deal with this<br/>best Beyond the geometry, I worry…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-21:2985220:Comment:4338782011-09-21T08:47:50.112ZLuis Fraguadahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/LuisFraguada
Beyond the geometry, I worry about the 'target audience' that this will affect. First of all, as so many of you have pointed out, the definitions are vague and broad. There is a lot of prior art. It would only be worth it to them to prosecute if there is a project underway with a real budget. Otherwise, why would they waste their time? It only serves as a scare tactic because litigation is expensive. Many patent cases are settled out of court when the entity holding the patent scares the…
Beyond the geometry, I worry about the 'target audience' that this will affect. First of all, as so many of you have pointed out, the definitions are vague and broad. There is a lot of prior art. It would only be worth it to them to prosecute if there is a project underway with a real budget. Otherwise, why would they waste their time? It only serves as a scare tactic because litigation is expensive. Many patent cases are settled out of court when the entity holding the patent scares the entity infringing to pay up or face further legal costs pending the outcome of the judge's decision. Usually those who settle out of court do not have the financial backup to sustain a legal battle, and often times do not have the financial backup even to settle. I see this affecting many small - mid size studios. Maybe the big guns will just pay outwright, though I do not see why they would, seeing as they probably have the means to implement their own tools. ...just thinking out loud... This makes me sick!tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-21:2985220:Comment:4338772011-09-21T08:15:52.516ZEvert Amadorhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/EvertAmador
This makes me sick!
This makes me sick! I do not understand this pate…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-09:2985220:Comment:4155812011-09-09T06:46:58.473Zsowhathttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/sowhat
<p>I do not understand this patent thingy. <a href="http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000012565347?download" target="_blank">This report</a> questions not only novelty but also inventive steps of the given patent, rating all ten claims negative. I even understand most of the explanations appended.</p>
<p>The same person, signs <a href="http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000012565568?download" target="_blank">this report</a> (english…</p>
<p>I do not understand this patent thingy. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000012565347?download">This report</a> questions not only novelty but also inventive steps of the given patent, rating all ten claims negative. I even understand most of the explanations appended.</p>
<p>The same person, signs <a target="_blank" href="http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000012565568?download">this report</a> (english <a target="_blank" href="http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/docservicepdf_pct/id00000013328087?download">here</a>) rating all ten claims positive with regards to novelty and invention? I do not quite follow/understand the reasons based on the documents published.</p>
<p>I think this is part of the patent approval process and that technically one would need to be a patent lawyer to understand this completely. For me, the questions remain</p> Hiarious indeed. I presume th…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-08:2985220:Comment:4158422011-09-08T23:50:26.458ZSteve Lewishttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/TrevorStephenLewis
<p>Hiarious indeed. I presume the planar strips also relates to the method of obtaining cutting patterns from a form-found doubly curved surface which has nothing to do with evolute. Im sure Dassault and Gehrey would find this interesting. They were doing it for years before Evolute. Same for ship building.</p>
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<p>Hiarious indeed. I presume the planar strips also relates to the method of obtaining cutting patterns from a form-found doubly curved surface which has nothing to do with evolute. Im sure Dassault and Gehrey would find this interesting. They were doing it for years before Evolute. Same for ship building.</p>
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<p> </p> Hey this guys are complete nu…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-08:2985220:Comment:4157322011-09-08T23:33:52.714ZClaudiohttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/Claudio
<p>Hey this guys are complete nuts. this (PDF attached) is their paper on the patent thing please read the answer to this question: What if I use other software instead of EvoluteTools to produce the same results, do the patents still apply?</p>
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<p>Hilarious</p>
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<p>Come on evolute get real you have a very nice tool there.</p>
<p>Hey this guys are complete nuts. this (PDF attached) is their paper on the patent thing please read the answer to this question: What if I use other software instead of EvoluteTools to produce the same results, do the patents still apply?</p>
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<p>Hilarious</p>
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<p>Come on evolute get real you have a very nice tool there.</p> That is not true Florin. The…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-08:2985220:Comment:4155522011-09-08T23:30:22.955ZDaniel Davishttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/DanielDavis
<p>That is not true Florin. The onus on proving the novelty/validity of a patent does not belong to the patent office, but is the responsibility of the patent holder if/when the patent is contested in court. This is why people have been able to patent things like toast and why discussion of whether Evolute's patents are novel is very important for the community in working out the worth of the patents.</p>
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<p>Anyone interested in the process of patenting should check out the This…</p>
<p>That is not true Florin. The onus on proving the novelty/validity of a patent does not belong to the patent office, but is the responsibility of the patent holder if/when the patent is contested in court. This is why people have been able to patent things like toast and why discussion of whether Evolute's patents are novel is very important for the community in working out the worth of the patents.</p>
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<p>Anyone interested in the process of patenting should check out the This American Life episode on patents and patent trolls:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack" target="_blank">http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack</a></p> After reading the patent a co…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2011-09-08:2985220:Comment:4157232011-09-08T22:02:57.492ZChris Tietjenhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/ChrisTietjen
<p>After reading the patent a couple of times I'm not quite getting what the unique part of it is. I'm just wondering if someone here could re-explain it in language that is more direct than the legal language pointing out the claims using some easily understood graphics.</p>
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<p>After reading the patent a couple of times I'm not quite getting what the unique part of it is. I'm just wondering if someone here could re-explain it in language that is more direct than the legal language pointing out the claims using some easily understood graphics.</p>
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