Facade Mesh Issues - Grasshopper2024-03-29T05:14:15Zhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topics/facade-mesh-issues?groupUrl=karamba3d&commentId=2985220%3AComment%3A1643464&groupId=2985220%3AGroup%3A251211&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHuge help, yes, Rafael, thank…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16443032016-11-23T02:27:28.091ZAshley Hastingshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/AshleyHastings
<p>Huge help, yes, Rafael, thank you. This little exercise has really helped me to understand the script more and how all of the components work together. </p>
<p>I'm really enjoying using Karamba, and look forward to learning more! Thank you so much for your help with this -- so greatly appreciated :)</p>
<p>Huge help, yes, Rafael, thank you. This little exercise has really helped me to understand the script more and how all of the components work together. </p>
<p>I'm really enjoying using Karamba, and look forward to learning more! Thank you so much for your help with this -- so greatly appreciated :)</p> Sorry, I meant the BeamView. …tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16442972016-11-23T02:02:50.774ZRafael Pastranahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RafaelPastrana
<p>Sorry, I meant the BeamView. </p>
<p>That's correct, the facade is only being read by Karamba as an "envelope mesh" from which it should generate the wind loads on to the structure. Therefore, it will not be processed as a structural component at all. </p>
<p>You could use input your facade as a shell element into the assemble component, using an independent BeamId for it (not the same as the concrete cores) and using the adequate inclusion points when meshing it (iPts at the MeshBrep…</p>
<p>Sorry, I meant the BeamView. </p>
<p>That's correct, the facade is only being read by Karamba as an "envelope mesh" from which it should generate the wind loads on to the structure. Therefore, it will not be processed as a structural component at all. </p>
<p>You could use input your facade as a shell element into the assemble component, using an independent BeamId for it (not the same as the concrete cores) and using the adequate inclusion points when meshing it (iPts at the MeshBrep Component), and then assing it a custom made material (glass, polycarbonate, etc).</p>
<p>However, since this facade, I assume is not a crucial structural piece you need for your building to hold up (i.e. the diagonal bracing at the facade level is holding most of your structure up), I think you should consider it as polycarbonate only and analyze it independently at a future stage.</p>
<p>Long story short, I think you don't need to make your glass facade part of your current model.</p>
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<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Rafael</p> Hmm, I'm not seeing 'MeshView…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16445502016-11-23T01:54:37.120ZAshley Hastingshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/AshleyHastings
<p>Hmm, I'm not seeing 'MeshView' as a component. ShellView and BeamView are there, but MeshView doesn't come up as an option. The façade is read as a load, and then linked to Loads input on 'Assemble' component. I'm able to bake the façade mesh from the Loads input area; however, it doesn't show the red/white/blue compression/tension bakeable mesh. The only things that bake are the overall structure and the cores.</p>
<p>On a separate, but related note -- is there a way to assign material…</p>
<p>Hmm, I'm not seeing 'MeshView' as a component. ShellView and BeamView are there, but MeshView doesn't come up as an option. The façade is read as a load, and then linked to Loads input on 'Assemble' component. I'm able to bake the façade mesh from the Loads input area; however, it doesn't show the red/white/blue compression/tension bakeable mesh. The only things that bake are the overall structure and the cores.</p>
<p>On a separate, but related note -- is there a way to assign material to the façade, similar to how the cores and framing are selected?</p>
<p>I've just had an 'a-ha!' moment: am I not able to bake this mesh for the façade because it's only reading it as being related to loads and not to structure or materials?</p> Try to input both the MeshVie…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16444452016-11-23T01:26:51.132ZRafael Pastranahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RafaelPastrana
<p>Try to input both the MeshView and ShellView output into one single mesh component. Then bake and see how it goes.</p>
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<p>Looking forward to visiting again! </p>
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<p>Try to input both the MeshView and ShellView output into one single mesh component. Then bake and see how it goes.</p>
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<p>Looking forward to visiting again! </p>
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<p></p> Small little world -- we so e…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16442942016-11-23T01:03:09.600ZAshley Hastingshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/AshleyHastings
<p>Small little world -- we so enjoyed having you, Mark, and Moritz with us for that week -- learned so much!</p>
<p>I'm attaching a screen cap of what I have in the script -- mesh components are separate, but like I mentioned, when I bake the component from ShellView, only the cores are baked, not the façade mesh. Is there a way to include the façade in the same bake with the cores?</p>
<p>Small little world -- we so enjoyed having you, Mark, and Moritz with us for that week -- learned so much!</p>
<p>I'm attaching a screen cap of what I have in the script -- mesh components are separate, but like I mentioned, when I bake the component from ShellView, only the cores are baked, not the façade mesh. Is there a way to include the façade in the same bake with the cores?</p> Hi Ashley,
I think that you…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16443922016-11-23T00:56:34.649ZRafael Pastranahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RafaelPastrana
<p>Hi Ashley,</p>
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<p>I think that you have to connect one Mesh component to the Beam View and another one to the Shell View, and then bake them separately so that you can get the cores (from the ShellView) and all of the Beam+Columns+Bracing elements (from the BeamView) into Rhino. </p>
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<p>Please give it a try.</p>
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<p>Yes! Same Rafael here. It was great to be at SCI-Arc!!</p>
<p>Hi Ashley,</p>
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<p>I think that you have to connect one Mesh component to the Beam View and another one to the Shell View, and then bake them separately so that you can get the cores (from the ShellView) and all of the Beam+Columns+Bracing elements (from the BeamView) into Rhino. </p>
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<p>Please give it a try.</p>
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<p>Yes! Same Rafael here. It was great to be at SCI-Arc!!</p> Hi Rafael,
Thanks very much f…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-23:2985220:Comment:16443912016-11-23T00:27:17.703ZAshley Hastingshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/AshleyHastings
<p>Hi Rafael,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for fixing that! Now, the only issue I'm having, is that it won't bake with the rest of the model? I have Mesh components connected to the BeamView and ShellView components at the end, but the ShellView only bakes the cores. Please advise -- again, this is still super new to me, so I'm sorry for asking potentially obvious questions.</p>
<p>Also, are you the same Rafael who was with us at SCI-Arc a couple weeks ago for the workshop? :)</p>
<p>Thank…</p>
<p>Hi Rafael,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for fixing that! Now, the only issue I'm having, is that it won't bake with the rest of the model? I have Mesh components connected to the BeamView and ShellView components at the end, but the ShellView only bakes the cores. Please advise -- again, this is still super new to me, so I'm sorry for asking potentially obvious questions.</p>
<p>Also, are you the same Rafael who was with us at SCI-Arc a couple weeks ago for the workshop? :)</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Ashley</p> Hey Ashley,
Find attached a r…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-22:2985220:Comment:16441572016-11-22T15:11:16.137ZRafael Pastranahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RafaelPastrana
<p>Hey Ashley,</p>
<p>Find attached a reworked version. Now the facade load is working.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Rafael</p>
<p>Hey Ashley,</p>
<p>Find attached a reworked version. Now the facade load is working.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Rafael</p> Hi Rafael,
I re-uploaded the…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-22:2985220:Comment:16435972016-11-22T02:26:36.613ZAshley Hastingshttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/AshleyHastings
<p>Hi Rafael,</p>
<p>I re-uploaded the file in my last posting -- did you see it? It should have the layer on there -- I just had it turned off in the original post.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Ashley</p>
<p>Hi Rafael,</p>
<p>I re-uploaded the file in my last posting -- did you see it? It should have the layer on there -- I just had it turned off in the original post.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Ashley</p> Okay, let us know!
Rafaeltag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2016-11-21:2985220:Comment:16434642016-11-21T19:21:16.946ZRafael Pastranahttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RafaelPastrana
<p>Okay, let us know!</p>
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<p>Rafael</p>
<p>Okay, let us know!</p>
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<p>Rafael</p>