Creating Waldram Diagram - Grasshopper2024-03-29T09:57:09Zhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topics/creating-waldram-diagram?commentId=2985220%3AComment%3A1773293&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYou basically need to convert…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-23:2985220:Comment:17732932017-06-23T17:25:22.155ZMostapha Sadeghipour Roudsarihttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/MostaphaSadeghipour
<p>You basically need to convert angles to x and y. Here is an example.</p>
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<p>You basically need to convert angles to x and y. Here is an example.</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2769301468?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/2769301468?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024" class="align-full" width="721"/></a></p> Hey Tom, do you have any good…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-23:2985220:Comment:17734492017-06-23T16:56:07.838ZMatthew Breauhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/MatthewBreau
<p>Hey Tom, do you have any good resources for those kinds of transformations? Did you find the equations in your gh file in a whitepaper somewhere? Or are you just a trigonometry buff?</p>
<p>Hey Tom, do you have any good resources for those kinds of transformations? Did you find the equations in your gh file in a whitepaper somewhere? Or are you just a trigonometry buff?</p> No "dummydata" is just a plac…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-22:2985220:Comment:17729152017-06-22T11:03:27.758ZDimitar Baldzhievhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/DimitarBaldzhiev686
<p>No "dummydata" is just a placeholder because I did not develop all parts of the scoring logic. As I said, I started this project for somebody else but quickly figured out that I will not get paid, therefore development stopped. This was just a demo proving that the task is possible and a presentation of my skill for the aforementioned "guy".</p>
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<p>The traced Waldram Diagram has nothing to do with the scoring. As a matter of fact I am quite sure that the traced diagram and this…</p>
<p>No "dummydata" is just a placeholder because I did not develop all parts of the scoring logic. As I said, I started this project for somebody else but quickly figured out that I will not get paid, therefore development stopped. This was just a demo proving that the task is possible and a presentation of my skill for the aforementioned "guy".</p>
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<p>The traced Waldram Diagram has nothing to do with the scoring. As a matter of fact I am quite sure that the traced diagram and this script is much more accurate than using pencil and paper. (I have no ideal how this is actually done, I have never designed anything in NY, hell, ... I have never been to USA)</p>
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<p>As far as I remember, all the input data required for accurate scoring is already in the script. It is just a matter of neatly ordering it and maybe counting some blocks or applying a formula for the count. The raw counts are there, it is just a matter of picking the right ones.</p>
<p>Also I have not done much bugfix work and edge case tests. The script is probably quite buggy if bombarded with different input data.</p>
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<p>I would love to co-develop this but so far I have been quite busy and have no time for side projects. However I am happy to provide support and to untangle that script I did in 2015 :D</p> I know this is a bit late...B…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-21:2985220:Comment:17724682017-06-21T21:50:46.167ZJed Lankitushttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/JedLankitus
<p>I know this is a bit late...But I noticed your script output has a few fields labeled 'dummydata'. Were you unable to get the scoring for every field because of the tracing?</p>
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<p>As a status update I still don't know the real formula...</p>
<p>I know this is a bit late...But I noticed your script output has a few fields labeled 'dummydata'. Were you unable to get the scoring for every field because of the tracing?</p>
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<p>As a status update I still don't know the real formula...</p> Thanks for helping :) tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-21:2985220:Comment:17724602017-06-21T21:44:03.820ZJed Lankitushttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/JedLankitus
<p>Thanks for helping :) </p>
<p>Thanks for helping :) </p> Thanks for the good suggestio…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-06-05:2985220:Comment:17640832017-06-05T21:48:52.476ZHT Liuhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/HTLiu
<p>Thanks for the good suggestion. I worked this method backwards (recalling my limited high school level trigonometry) and got this formula</p>
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<p>I think it looks closer to the NYC Waldram diagram at least in the shape of the curves.…</p>
<p>Thanks for the good suggestion. I worked this method backwards (recalling my limited high school level trigonometry) and got this formula</p>
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<p>I think it looks closer to the NYC Waldram diagram at least in the shape of the curves. However the spacing between droop lines is constant at b=0 for every 10 degrees, rather than spacing out as you go higher. I think they probably have another factors multiplied to the result but I still can't figure out what that factor is. Looks like a tangent of something if I have to guess.</p> That does look similar and ma…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-04-04:2985220:Comment:17271852017-04-04T17:59:09.009ZJed Lankitushttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/JedLankitus
<p>That does look similar and maybe is in the underlying formula, thank you for the tip! I don't know if I'm smart enough to exactly correlate the two though...yet</p>
<p>That does look similar and maybe is in the underlying formula, thank you for the tip! I don't know if I'm smart enough to exactly correlate the two though...yet</p> Wow what a script! We are pla…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-04-03:2985220:Comment:17265342017-04-03T16:06:00.275ZJed Lankitushttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/JedLankitus
<p>Wow what a script! We are planning on actually going to NYC zoning and trying to get an answer on this one. Seems really immoral to me to have a small group of people checking diagrams to be correct and holding on to the formula for themselves so that we are dependent. I'll keep you updated, thanks for the help</p>
<p>Wow what a script! We are planning on actually going to NYC zoning and trying to get an answer on this one. Seems really immoral to me to have a small group of people checking diagrams to be correct and holding on to the formula for themselves so that we are dependent. I'll keep you updated, thanks for the help</p> This is a "bullshit curve"! A…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-04-01:2985220:Comment:17252822017-04-01T12:38:27.317ZDimitar Baldzhievhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/DimitarBaldzhiev686
<p>This is a "bullshit curve"! And this is a proof of concept script. :D I traced a paper copy of a Waldram scheme leaving the exact scientific definition of the curve for later. So, unfortunately, it will not serve you any purpose... The rest of the script is quite quick in my opinion (the evaluation of a change in the design is near-real-time).</p>
<p>Please share your work as well so we can assemble a complete script eventually. Thanks!</p>
<p>This is a "bullshit curve"! And this is a proof of concept script. :D I traced a paper copy of a Waldram scheme leaving the exact scientific definition of the curve for later. So, unfortunately, it will not serve you any purpose... The rest of the script is quite quick in my opinion (the evaluation of a change in the design is near-real-time).</p>
<p>Please share your work as well so we can assemble a complete script eventually. Thanks!</p> Jed Lankitus, I just tried La…tag:www.grasshopper3d.com,2017-03-31:2985220:Comment:17249082017-03-31T20:58:58.947ZRalph Spencer Steenblikhttps://www.grasshopper3d.com/profile/RalphSpencerSteenblik
<p><a class="fn url" href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=13cpgm997fhoj">Jed Lankitus</a>, I just tried <a class="fn url" href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3drltfr9zd9nx">Laurent Delrieu</a> definition against the Waldram provided by my municipality and it seems that there is too much of an "S" to the curve. Your initial script seems to follow the flatter near zero plots required by my chart. Maybe you can apply a…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=13cpgm997fhoj" class="fn url">Jed Lankitus</a>, I just tried <a href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3drltfr9zd9nx" class="fn url">Laurent Delrieu</a> definition against the Waldram provided by my municipality and it seems that there is too much of an "S" to the curve. Your initial script seems to follow the flatter near zero plots required by my chart. Maybe you can apply a manipulating multiplier, similar to the way <a href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3drltfr9zd9nx" class="fn url">Laurent Delrieu</a> was using a multiple of 45 to accomplish correlation to the graph he was using.. That is what I did to get the divisions accurate. You can see my results below. </p>
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<p> <a href="http://www.grasshopper3d.com/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3sv5jil2gtbag" class="fn url">Dimitar Baldzhiev</a>, it seems you have it figured it out from the looks of it in your video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnK6dXeD6g" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdnK6dXeD6g</a>. Can you please share?</p>